[TheForge] welder question

Peter Fels & Phoebe Palmer artgawk at thegrid.net
Thu Dec 10 20:05:56 EST 2009


I'd sure want to see the oil change records,early on..6000 hours seems 
like a fair amount of use. Paul's point is pretty strong!
Cosmetics matter to some folks i suppose.

Woolley wrote:
> I'm not so sure what kind of impression I may make on you with my 3-4 
> day beard, shabby work clothes and 88 F-150 with the rusty, stick welded 
> together tube steel rack, rusted out hood, little dent here or there 
> (nothing too obvious).  But,  I take real good care of all my tools and 
> keep my shop pretty orderly. But the exterior of my shop is pretty 
> shabby, sorta by design cause I'm trying to keep a low profile in the 
> area of the city I'm in. SO, if you catch me outside the shop you may be 
> suspicious, inside you probably would buy my stuff.  Now, do I want to 
> let YOU in my shop? Better shave and  bring the pretty truck.  Ha!
> 
> Bill Woolley
> 
> 
> 
> Grover.Richardson at gtri.gatech.edu wrote:
>> How much of that time was actually welding and how much was idling.  Possibly a compression check would tell you the wear on the engine.  Also I shop my equipment by looking at the people.  If their truck looks rough, I wonder how much care was given to the other stuff<G>.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Paul N
>> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 12:31 PM
>> To: Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA
>> Subject: Re: [TheForge] welder question
>>
>> I'll admit I know nothing about these motors or welders.
>>
>> So I thought I'd create a comparison:
>> If you assume that the motor powered a motor vehicle travelling at 60mph 
>> for 6,000 hrs, that vehicle would have travelled 360,000 miles in that 
>> time. Sounds like it's "well worn" to me.
>>
>> **paul
>>
>>
>> John Allen wrote:
>>   
>>> Most people think diesel motor and they just buy it. The biggest thing
>>> is that there is 6000 hours on the generator as well. If the generator
>>> fails there is no sense having a diesel motor.
>>>
>>> I have asked a thousand questions to everyone and company that has a
>>> portsbe welder and ask their opinion on gas vs diesel and 75 percent
>>> say unless you run the welder all day for atleast 3 days a week, the
>>> diesel won't pay for itself since you can buy 2 new gas welders which
>>> has 2 new generators for the same as 1 diesel and 1 generator.
>>>
>>> I would keep searching. There are a lot of portable welders for sale
>>> lately and more will come. Just be patient and don't settle for
>>> something.
>>>
>>> On 12/9/09, Andy Gladish <gladish at cablerocket.com> wrote:
>>>     
>>>> Does anyone have an opinion about engine hours on a Miller Trail Power
>>>> generator/welder?
>>>> I'm looking at one for $900, but it has around 6k hours on the meter-
>>>> diesel power- looks to be all there and solid.
>>>> What IS a lot of hours for one of these (Deutz?) diesels?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for any ideas-
>>>> Andy G.
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