[TheForge] Foundations and shop design

[Dan Brewer]

If you are running pipe in the cement wrap it with some thin poly-styrene
insulation.  The pipe will move in the cement causing the cement to crack or
if the cement cracks the pipe will break. Use interdict in the conduit and
over size what you think you need for today's needs.    Remember that you
might want some communications in the shop. Computer , Phone .  
Just a few thoughts while you are considering the options.  

Dan in Auburn WA

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From: "Ekaterina Harrison" <ekaterina at wildblue.net>
To: <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 12:15 PM
Subject: [TheForge] Foundations and shop design


> Hi All,
>
> We are just getting ready to a pour a cement floor in the new shop, we 
> are building. I have the opportunity here to address and improve my  work 
> environment. I am very excited about this. One of the things we  are doing

> is running steel under the cement across the whole length of  the shop to 
> to provide more grounding points around the shop and  running pipe for 
> airline hook ups and some conduit for stringing some  wiring to the other 
> side of the shop.
>
>  One of the issues that I have been trying to figure out is the best  way 
> to mount a power hammer and treadle hammer. My current power  hammer is 
> bolted to the floor with a 1" rubber mat between it and the  floor. As you

> might guess in the area around the hammer the floor has  sustained some 
> damage and I, also, have had a hell of a time with my  tools jumping of 
> benches when I work the hammer. So, it seems quite  clear that in the new 
> shop the hammer should have its own independent  foundation. We have been 
> considering several options:
>
> We are planning to leave a graveled area just big enough for the 
> hammer( surrounded by the cement floor) or possibly cut out the  section 
> of floor after we have figured out the best location for the  hammer. And 
> then :
>
> 1- independant cement foundation 1' thick
> 2- block up hammer on timbers
>
> OR -  I have, also,  seen some blacksmiths simply leave a whole  section 
> of dirt floor for their various power hammer stuff. I have  been 
> considering this as well. The draw back to this that I see is  simply 
> difficulty in clean up. The plus is it seems to leave more  versatility 
> for adjustment of tool placing, replacing and upgrading.
>
> Issues I have been wondering about:
> If hammer is set on timbers is there a balance issue to consider - as  in 
> keeping it from tilting and moving?
> I know that the treadle hammer ,I made, I never did mount it to the 
> floor, figuring that it was heavy enough it should stay put. I was 
> surprised just how much it did move across the floor.
>
> Any suggestions, pro and cons, experiences of mounting hammers and 
> general shop layout would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Ekaterina
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