[TheForge] industrial education

[Grant Marcoux]

Note also that formal blacksmithing curricula died out after WW1, for the
most part.  Didn't the RJ Lillico industrial forging guide predate 1930?

It is amazing what the old time craftspeople could do prior to the age where
assembly line production was the norm.

I had a coworker once who had lived in Barrow, Alaska in the late 40s and
claimed she had seen an Inuit man repair a piston top from a Jeep by using a
section of walrus ivory.  It supposedly worked.

How about the fellows who made rifle barrels by the twist steel Damascus
method and rifled them using hand-powered machinery.  You'd really have to
trust your welds!  In all fairness however, many such barrels did not hold
up well.  It took a true master to consistently make good barrels

Interesting how modern life requires one to be obedient vs. skilled

There is a really cool book called "Better Off", written by a man who, with
his family, lived in a community that even by Amish standards, was
primitive.  They had no electric or motor power and the heavy work was done
by animals connected to many types of machinery.  Most noteworthy was the
fact that most of the children, boys and girls alike, were skilled with
livestock handling and food processing operations by age 12.

It wasn't so much that they worked hard as much as they worked smart.

Grant

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Subject: Re: [TheForge] industrial education




lee robbins wrote:
> Andrew Vida wrote:
> I spent 3 more years at CCNY doing an industrial education degree.  I
> was in my element.  Lots of DOING rather than bullshitting.  It was such
> a good time, I felt guilty getting grades for it.
>
> It is amazing when i use Schwartzkopf, a newly reprinted bible, it was the
school curriculum for Stuyvesant High School in the 1912. yes things have
changed...
> but they don't make Hay Budden Anvils in Brooklyn, NY either since 1930.
> Lee

	I tried to get a position at the old Stuyvesant - no way - the line was
LONG.  You should see the new one - fabulous building right on the
Hudson, some 7 stories high. I was astounded that they included shops,
giving the practical arts "futuring" that was conducted '81-'83.  It was
built in the late 80s to the tune of some $150 million.  More Nobel
laureates came out of Stuy than any other school in the US.
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