[TheForge] Steel Scrap was Treadle Hammer Anvil Stand
williamsiron at comcast.net
williamsiron at comcast.net
Tue Jun 10 14:04:58 EDT 2008
No, this was in Birmingham, Alabama. And the folk from Louisiana, Florida and southern Alabama had multiple layers of clothing but forgot to bring or didn't have long johns and other cold weather garb. We had to keep the shop doors closed to contain the heat but that also contained fumes given off by the welders.
It was a great time. Just ask Dave Smucker.
Mark
Snow Hill, Maryland
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "robert hensarling" <rhrocker at hilconet.com>
> Was that at Dr. Ralph Sprouls digs? He sent me some pictures you guys
> working that weekend. It did look cold!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> To: "Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA"
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 4:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Steel Scrap was Treadle Hammer Anvil Stand
>
>
> > Dave,
> >
> > Yes, that was the workshop where we made 30 treadle hammers. That was in
> > January 2003. We had a cold front come through and the high temps were in
> > the upper 30's for the whole weekend. I have been very pleased with the
> > hammer.
> >
> > Mark
> > Snow Hill, Maryland
> >
> > -------------- Original message --------------
> > From: "David E. Smucker"
> >
> >> The advantage on a treadle hammer of Mark's type of anvil is that it
> >> allows
> >> you to use a drift and let it pass into the "hole". Now if you cut a slot
> >> in one side of the tube about mid point with the bottom as a ramp and add
> >> a
> >> drop in center piece with a ramp the drift can exit the anvil on one
> >> side.
> >> If you do this right it can even be set so that it drops into a bucket of
> >> water and cools the drift. The drift is then ready for the next hole.
> >>
> >> When we made the treadle hammers in the work shop I was in (I think Mark
> >> was
> >> in it too) those of us who were lucky got the hammers with the center
> >> hole.
> >>
> >> Dave
> >>
> >> --------------------------------------------------
> >> From:
> >> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 2:55 PM
> >> To: "Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA"
> >> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Steel Scrap was Treadle Hammer Anvil Stand
> >>
> >> > I have a treadle hammer with a 300 lb anvil of 6" tubing having a 2.5"
> >> > wall. It works just fine. Solid stock might work better. I don't know.
> >> >
> >> > Mark
> >> > Snow Hill, Maryland
> >> >
> >> > -------------- Original message --------------
> >> > From: "David E. Smucker"
> >> >
> >> >> Like Ries notes -- most scrap is on the move today. Another reason is
> >> >> that
> >> >> most scrap yards expect the price of scrap to drop, and drop quickly
> >> >> so
> >> >> you
> >> >> want to get the money out of what you already have on the ground.
> >> >> Around
> >> >> here (western North Carolina) many guys who would normally be hauling
> >> >> timber
> >> >> are current trucking scrap, pays better.
> >> >>
> >> >> Dave,
> >> >>
> >> >> ps I think steel prices will be coming down, question is when.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --------------------------------------------------
> >> >> From: "ries"
> >> >> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 11:13 AM
> >> >> To: "Blacksmithing List Sponsored by ABANA"
> >> >> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Treadle Hammer Anvil Stand
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Jun 9, 2008, at 6:46 AM, Andrew Vida wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Why fart around with this at all? Go to the scrap yard and find a
> >> >> > piece
> >> >> > of 6" solid round or 4" solid square and do the job correctly. If it
> >> >> > costs you $50, so what?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 3 feet of 6" round weighs 300lbs.
> >> >> > My local guy would get .30 a pound for that-
> >> >> > $180.
> >> >> > If he had any.
> >> >> > Last time I was at the scrap yard, they had about 50 square feet of
> >> >> > actual scrap for sale- a few perfect I beams or big pieces of 12"
> >> >> > square
> >> >> > tube, in lengths over 8 feet.
> >> >> > Everything else goes right onto the big pile that is being loaded,
> >> >> > all
> >> >> > day long, into containers for shipping to the steel mills, either
> >> >> > here
> >> >> > in
> >> >> > the USA or overseas.
> >> >> > Most steel now, in an efficient scrap yard, sits for no more than a
> >> >> > day
> >> >> > or two before being sold in bulk.
> >> >> > Same thing with auto recyclers around here- Schnitzer, from
> >> >> > Portland,
> >> >> > owns something like 600 auto recycling yards around the country.
> >> >> > A car will sit 30 days, and then its crushed, no matter what- a
> >> >> > computer
> >> >> > printout tells em which cars to smash each day, to "keep the
> >> >> > inventory
> >> >> > fresh".
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The value of land, the expense of running a business, means in most
> >> >> > west
> >> >> > coast states, anyway, a scrap yard goes out of business if it is
> >> >> > waiting
> >> >> > to get top dollar for that usable scrap like 6" round.
> >> >> > Not a good thing, but an unfortunate truth around here.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ries
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Ries Niemi
> >> >> > Industrial Artist
> >> >> > http://www.riesniemi.com/
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
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