[TheForge] Atlantic 33 question

[David E. Smucker]

Larry,  Can you still buy it? (Atlantic 33) I know that quite a few 
blacksmiths have personal supplies but is still being produce?  Dan Boone 
got a bunch as drops from where he used to work.  Last I knew Atlantic Steel 
was bankrupt, bought out by others and no longer producing this product.

While I don't recommend it you can get good "No Temper" performance from S7 
and even H13.  Of course when you use these steels for hot work you will 
temper them by what ever temperature you let them reach.  This aspect is 
often misunderstood by some blacksmiths.  (Both S7 and H13 are easy to find 
and purchase.)

Dan Tull has often made the point that for lots of hot work applications 
good old spring steel work really great.  Just heat, forge and let air cool. 
No need to "heat treat" or temper.  You are going to draw any hardness you 
would get from heat treating any way with these steel if using them for hot 
work.  I have had good luck with a number of hot cuts and drifts just made 
from spring steel in this way.  For really heavy service, I like S7.  I have 
some punches that I use for hammer eyes made for the flypress that are from 
heat treated S7.

Your mileage may vary.

Dave
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry Brown" <lp.brown at verizon.net>
To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: [TheForge] Atlantic 33 question


> The good thing about Atlantic 33 or flutagon is forge it, heat it and 
> quench it. I forge it at orange and the higher the temp when you quench it 
> is the higher the hardness. I like it for job sites, I've forged it on a 
> rock and quenched it in a muddy puddle and had it working in minutes
> Larry Brown
>
>
> At 07:24 AM 1/24/2008 -0500, you wrote:
>>In a message dated 1/24/2008 1:43:58 AM Eastern Standard Time,
>>dave at magichammer.net writes:
>>
>>How does one work this material?
>>
>>The presumed advantage of Atlantic 33 (Flutagon) steel is that no 
>>tempering
>>is required. You simply harden it in water. Dan Boone just lets it air 
>>harden
>>and it works quite well.
>>
>>The Atlantic Steel Corp directions say:
>>
>>To Forge:  Heat slowly and uniformly to a temp of about 1825 - 1975F 
>>(lemon
>>to yellow) and forge.
>>
>>To Harden:  Reheat the cutting edge about 1" back between 1650 - 1950
>>(Salmon to lemon color) depending on hardness required. Quench in clean 
>>cold  water.
>>
>>Don Plummer
>>
>
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