[TheForge] Free the Stake!

Peter Fels And Phoebe Palmer artgawk at thegrid.net
Sun Jan 20 13:16:19 EST 2008


I live by the ocean and know rust way too well.
The electrolytic method has enabled me to disassemble parts i 
never thought would come apart.
You can make the positive electrode from a sacrifice piece of 
iron rod and bend it to fit around the joint to be 
cleaned...suspended close by.
Be sure to use a strong, even hot, detergent soak on the joint 
first....pf

Peter Hirst wrote:
> I'm leaning toward the chemical rust remover and heat treatment.  
> Whether ultrasonic or electrolytic, I'm wondering whether it doesn't 
> maks a huge difference that we're talking separating parts   as opposed 
> to cleaning exposed surfaces. After all, this is the equuivalent of 
> having a 2" diameter bolt  rusted into a nut that's 18" across and 4" 
> thick  Even if the electrolyte seeps into the recess around the embedded 
> part, isn't the current going to just go line of sight to the nearest 
> surface rather than penetrating to where the problem is?
> 
> Anyway, I am currently soaking the sucker in PB blaster, and configuring 
> a fire arrangement that will heat the swage block and cool the anvil at 
> the same time.  Slow but high volume fire applied to the block and a 
> water jacket around the stake. Unless someone tells me absolutley that 
> electrolysis has worked for freeing deeply imbedded parts, I think I'm 
> going with the chemical and heat.
> 
> PGH
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Brewer" <danqualman at gmail.com>
> To: "'Sponsored by ABANA'" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 2:57 PM
> Subject: RE: [TheForge] Free the Stake!
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>> negative is attached to the piece you want to have stuff removed  from 
>> and
>> the Positive to the piece you want the stuff to be attached to.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net
>> [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Peter Hirst
>> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 11:42 AM
>> To: Sponsored by ABANA
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>> Uhh, the positive to which?
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Brewer" <danqualman at gmail.com>
>> To: "'Sponsored by ABANA'" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 1:24 PM
>> Subject: RE: [TheForge] Free the Stake!
>>
>>
>>> All you are doing by putting something in the water is to make the water
>>> more conductive.  So soda, salt, acid, all work. Attach the positive to
>>> the
>>> piece you want stuff to be removed from and the positive to the thing 
>>> you
>>> want to have coated.  All of this in a plastic bucket .
>>>
>>> Dan in Auburn
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net
>>> [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of A Vida
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 6:04 AM
>>> To: Sponsored by ABANA
>>> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Free the Stake!
>>>
>>>    You can use ANYTHING as an electrolyte.  Pee in the water if you
>>> want.
>>>  It will work just fine.
>>>
>>> Dan Scheid wrote:
>>>> No keep them the same. The reason I like a mild HC is HC love to eat
>>>> rust.
>>>> But a soda is more environmentally friendly
>>>> Dan Scheid
>>>>
>>>> I've done a little electrolytic derusting lately, using an alkaline
>>> (washing
>>>>
>>>> soda) batheand putting the work piece on the cathode.  I've never 
>>>> used an
>>>> acid medium, but I would assume it requires reversing the polarity, 
>>>> yes?
>>>>
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