[TheForge] Re: TheForge Digest, Vol 59, Issue 13
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> 1. Re: looking for info (GRAF)
> 2. RE: looking for info (Roger Degner)
> 3. looking for info (Mike Spencer)
> 4. Re: Re: Tap & Di cold tap..OT (Andrew Vida)
> 5. Re: looking for info (Andrew Vida)
> 6. Re: Re: Tap & Di cold tap..OT (Andrew Vida)
> 7. Re: Re: Tap & Di cold tap..OT (Andrew Vida)
> 8. Re: Way..OT (dan tull)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 07:40:40 -0600
> From: GRAF <adveniam at att.net>
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] looking for info
> To: mspencer at tallships.ca, Blacksmithing List Sponsored by
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> Ruby fluid does work, I think that is zinc chloride for the
> most part.
> http://www.acrosales.com/ sells a tinning paste pure tin
> and flux
> combo. Mikes mention of the tinning powder reminded me of
> it.
> They are good folks to work with.
>
> Mike Graf
>
>
> Mike Spencer wrote:
> >
> > Otherwise, clean as well as possible, apply heat, bar
> tin or other
> > pure tin product and ammonium chloride, swab with
> cotton or leather as
> > Mike Graf says. (I don't know about using zinc
> chloride.) One slight
> > variation I've used is to swab with steel wool.
> But then you have to
> > make a final, sometimes infuriatingly tedious effort
> to get any adhering
> > strands of steel wool out/off of the tin before it
> hardens.
> >
> >
> > FWIW,
> > - Mike
> >
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 15:04:58 -0600
> From: "Roger Degner" <780 at mchsi.com>
> Subject: RE: [TheForge] looking for info
> To: <mspencer at tallships.ca>, "'Blacksmithing
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> In the UMBA video RD31 Dr Iron AKA Doug Hendrickson used a
> wad of fiberglass
> insulation to swirl the melted tin around the inside of the
> skillet
>
> Roger R Degner
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mike
> Spencer
> Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 12:13 AM
> To: theforge at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [TheForge] looking for info
>
>
>
> > My friend is looking for information on
> "tinning" a copper
> > vessel....Any information written or video would be
> great.
>
> I was about to recommend, as I have in the past, the Canada
> Metal product
> called TinRite. But a quick check of their web site fails
> to reveal any
> mention of it.
>
> When my supply purchased about 1980 ran out in 2004, I
> called Canada Metal
> with great optimism. After numerous exchanges of phone
> calls and email (and
> some months), I eventually got a call from a guy whom I
> took, perhaps
> erroneously, to work in some deep cellar of the Skunk
> Works. He sent me a
> couple of cans.
>
> Ho hum.
>
> But you might ask at one or more of your local industrial
> supply vendors if
> they might have some on hand. Shelf life is very long if
> it's unopened or
> kept tightly covered. It's pure tin granules and an
> ammoniacal flux. But
> it works way more easily and uniformly than using bar tin
> and ammonium
> chloride. I re-tinned one of my own cook pots with bar tin
> and ammonium
> chloride that a friend raided from her now-grown son's
> old chemistry set.
> Did a poor job. Did it over when I got the new supply of
> TinRite and got
> okay-to-good results. Re-tinned a red brass (? I think,
> made from an
> unrolled piece of 4" pipe that looked like copper but
> was wayyyy harder to
> form) omelet pan with TinRite and got excellent results.
>
> It's also a handy means to solder together flat
> surfaces such as bearing
> caps. Heat both pieces with a torch or oven, sprinkle on
> the TinRite, swab
> it on and you get a bright tinned surface. Then just glom
> the two pieces
> together (in correct alignment, of course) and let cool.
>
> You might try emailing Richard Hall
> <rhall at canadametal.com> if you want to
> pursue it beyond your local suppliers.
>
> Otherwise, clean as well as possible, apply heat, bar tin
> or other pure tin
> product and ammonium chloride, swab with cotton or leather
> as Mike Graf
> says. (I don't know about using zinc chloride.) One
> slight variation I've
> used is to swab with steel wool. But then you have to make
> a final,
> sometimes infuriatingly tedious effort to get any adhering
> strands of steel
> wool out/off of the tin before it hardens.
>
>
> FWIW,
> - Mike
>
> --
> Michael Spencer Nova Scotia, Canada
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 20:23:14 -0400
> From: mspencer at tallships.ca (Mike Spencer)
> Subject: [TheForge] looking for info
> To: theforge at mailman.qth.net
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>
> > In the UMBA video RD31 Dr Iron AKA Doug Hendrickson
> used a wad of
> > fiberglass insulation to swirl the melted tin around
> the inside of
> > the skillet
>
> Ha! I'll have to ty that. Or even ceramic fiber batt.
> Thanks for the
> idea, Roger.
>
>
> - Mike
>
> --
> Michael Spencer Nova Scotia, Canada
> .~.
>
> /V\
> mspencer at tallships.ca
> /( )\
> http://home.tallships.ca/mspencer/
> ^^-^^
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:31:27 -0500
> From: Andrew Vida <osan at netlabs.net>
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Re: Tap & Di cold tap..OT
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> Freezing. It was just 65* here... now it is about 10.
>
> Unless I'm skiiing, winter sucks.
>
> Peter Fels & Phoebe Palmer wrote:
> > getting cold feet?
> >
> > Andrew Vida wrote:
> >> I'm sick of winter already and it hasn't
> even started yet...
> >>
> >> I think I need to move to the equator.
> >>
> >> Jerry Frost wrote:
> >>> Ayup. A sine of the wave to come!
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:33:10 -0500
> From: Andrew Vida <osan at netlabs.net>
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] looking for info
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> Clean copper well. Apply sal ammoniac, add tin, slosh
> around until
> coated. Use of a brush is allowed. :)
>
> Dave Mudge wrote:
> > Hey gang, Merry Christmas.
> > My friend is looking for information on
> "tinning" a copper vessel.
> > I saw Bill Callaway do it once in Birmingham back in
> the 80's but
> > the details from my memory are un-retrievable.
> > Any information written or video would be great.
> >
> > Thanks in advance for your help.
> > dave mudge
> > southern louisiana
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:35:21 -0500
> From: Andrew Vida <osan at netlabs.net>
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Re: Tap & Di cold tap..OT
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> I see your limit, but at least you can differentiate the
> two.
>
> Andy Gladish wrote:
> > I'm having trouble integrating this into the topic
> of
> > blacksmithing...makes me wish I was back in Louisiana
> drinking delta Tea
> >
> >> Or more succinctly put: cosecant be normal
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:37:05 -0500
> From: Andrew Vida <osan at netlabs.net>
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Re: Tap & Di cold tap..OT
> To: mspencer at tallships.ca, Blacksmithing List Sponsored by
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>
>
> Mike Spencer wrote:
> > Andrew Vida wrote:
> >
> >> I'm sick of winter already and it hasn't
> even started yet...
> >>
> >> I think I need to move to the equator.
> >
> > Yeah, but then you'd have poisonous snakes, toxic
> toads, giant scorpions,
> > venomous spiders and chiggers.
>
> Methinks the chiggers would be the only factor I'd
> bave problems with.
> Never been bitten by one... don't ever want to be,
> either. They are
> horrid creatures.
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:45:05 -0500
> From: "dan tull" <dantull at numail.org>
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Way..OT
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> Andy,
> Hunting deer w/ SIL in Oct. this year, stepped in a stump
> hole up to my
> thigh(wonder I didn't break a leg). SIL helped me up.
> Went on.
> ..........That night , had over 200 chigger bites on that
> leg only. Must
> have been a bed. Lots of clear fingernail polish.
>
> U Don't know what you're missing.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andrew Vida" <osan at netlabs.net>
> To: <mspencer at tallships.ca>; "Blacksmithing List
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> <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 9:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Re: Tap & Di cold tap..OT
>
>
> >
> >
> > Mike Spencer wrote:
> >> Andrew Vida wrote:
> >>
> >>> I'm sick of winter already and it
> hasn't even started yet...
> >>>
> >>> I think I need to move to the equator.
> >>
> >> Yeah, but then you'd have poisonous snakes,
> toxic toads, giant scorpions,
> >> venomous spiders and chiggers.
> >
> > Methinks the chiggers would be the only factor I'd
> bave problems with.
> > Never been bitten by one... don't ever want to be,
> either. They are
> > horrid creatures.
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