I have a Jet Horizontal Vertical 7" x 10" and use it more than almost any other single tool in my shop. It is the only piece of equipment I'll set to work and walk away from. I have nothing to add to what Ries said, it's right on the money. Frosty ------------------------------- If it ain't forged it ain't real. Wrought iron is. The FrostWorks Meadow Lakes, AK.