[TheForge] OT now teaching

David E. Smucker davesmucker at hotmail.com
Thu Apr 10 13:48:20 EDT 2008


Oh but Peter,  It is one way for a teacher to find out if he has students in 
a class that know more than he does  :)

I agree, you don't want to make learning painful just for the sake of 
showing off that you know something that student doesn't.  Teaching at John 
C. Campbell Folk School, I often find that I learn as much from the students 
as they do from me and of course they learn from each other.  It is not 
about right or wrong -- but about learning new things.  Teaching heat 
treating I find that students seem to always find new ways to make tools 
crack -- and it is the advanced students that do it more often that the 
beginners.  Beginners listen and follow instructions -- advanced students 
charge ahead.  But then they have the extra time to make it over  :)

Dave
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Hirst" <saltydog335 at aol.com>
To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 12:47 PM
Subject: Re: [TheForge] CAD Software


> Hear, hear!  Nothing makes me crazier (or leave a course quicker)  than 
> the egoistic teacher who begins a topic by asking questions on material 
> yet to be covered and then "teaching"  by explaining why the answers are 
> wrong.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Andrew Vida" <osan at netlabs.net>
> To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 8:27 AM
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] CAD Software
>
>
>>
>>
>> Grover.Richardson at gtri.gatech.edu wrote:
>>
>>> Last lesson for the day, practice makes permanent.  If you learn how to
>>> do it wrong, and practice, you will learn to do it perfectly, wrong.
>>>
>>    Good point.  An important corollary is to learn to do an operation 
>> correctly the first time.  In teaching, showing students examples of the 
>> wrong way can be a good learning aid, but it MUST be showed *after* the 
>> student has learn the correct way.  If you do it in the wrong order, 
>> chances are good that one of the wrong ways will stick and become habit. 
>> Cognitive psychology 101... especially in children and young adults.
>>
>>    -Andy
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