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[David E. Smucker]

That is correct Jim.  One other thing about "real hard" items between dies 
is that in a mishap they are more likely to break and things can go flying.

The dies on my "big hammer" are softer than I would like.  It is a 60 KG Tom 
Clark power hammer and the dies are 1045.  I really like the hammer, just 
wish the dies were made of 4140 or 4150.  The 1045 dies on Tom's hammer will 
never chip, but 4140 would be much better with the right heat treat.

Dave
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Beard" <regionalchaos at gmail.com>
To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: [TheForge] (no subject)


> So you are recommending annealing it so that it is softer then the
> dies so it does not damage them.  That makes a lot of sense.
> Basically, don't put anything harder then the dies under the dies.
> Thanks for the answer!
>
> Jim
> Eugene, OR
>
> On 10/2/07, David E. Smucker <davesmucker at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> I don't like to put any thing as hard as a file between my power hammer 
>> dies
>> even if mostly you are forcing the "file" into the hot and soft block
>> sitting on the bottom die.  The other day I picked up a round to do some
>> fullering under the hammer.  It was hardened (dumb me) and left some
>> indentations in my top die.  Nothing a little grinding will not remove, 
>> but
>> I like to do as little dressing as possible on my power hammer dies --  
>> just
>> to extend their lives.
>>
>> Dave
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jim Beard" <regionalchaos at gmail.com>
>> To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 6:44 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TheForge] (no subject)
>>
>>
>> > Why anneal the file first?  Will it be too brittle and break otherwise?
>> >
>> > On 10/2/07, paul <forge at wi.rr.com> wrote:
>> >> One way to make dies is to forge a pattern and drive that into a block
>> >> or to form a die.
>> >> In the case of a 60 angle cross section you might try annealing a
>> >> triangular file, hopefully a dull one, and then driving that into a 
>> >> hot
>> >> block of steel with your treadle hammer to form the die.
>> >> 'Three corner' files are available in many sizes and the natural taper
>> >> on some of them might suit you.
>> >> Paul
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