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[Tod Estes]

If you had a sample of what you were tring to replicate then it would not that
difficult to make a upper and lower die. weld two chunks of metal on to a
hairpin shaped piece to make your spring and heat the chunks when ready place
your cold sample in the hot chunks and hit them together, they should stay
lined up and the indention left in them is the shape of your model.
Tod
Age and wisdom are relative.

Quoting "Washington, Aubrey O." <awashington at ou.edu>:

> The problem with a V block made from angle, and the Vs in most swage blocks
> it that they are the wrong angle for a triangular shape.  Angle iron is 90
> degrees and you want 60 degrees.  For small pieces, say 1/4" or 3/8" (maybe
> up to 1/2"), you could make your own 60 degree swage by filing with a
> triangular file.  If I were going to do it, I would probably rough it out
> with a grinder and then do the final shaping with a file.  You could taper it
> any way you want.
>
> Aubrey
> Oldish, but not necessarily wise.
>
> ________________________________________
> From: theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net [theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On
> Behalf Of Albin Drzewianowski [dski1045 at qis.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 12:09 PM
> To: Sponsored by ABANA
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] (no subject)
>
> To start things off, you're not going to get very far calling us old.  It
> may be true be we don't need to be reminded.   8^)
>
> The only way I know to do this is in a V block.  The real trick will be to
> get the taper to a point.
>
> Trying to do it free hand by turning 1/3 will not work.
>
> If I were to try this, i would first make a 3 sided piece using the V block
> and then see if by driving it (at a very high heat) deeper into the V with a
> cross pien will give some taper.   I am betting to get a sharp point, you
> will have to file or grind.
>
> For short 3 sided tapers, say 3-4" I have seen blocks that had a tapered V
> groove and the steel would be driven into that.  But the ones I saw, were
> for a very small cross section, on the order of 1/4".   How long do your  3
> sided pieces need to be???
>
> Come to think if it,  I think I have seen some fairly long tapered V shaped
> grooves in some swedge blocks, but I think they got too wide too soon for
> your purposes.   Sounds like you need a pretty gradual taper.
>
> Only way to know is to give it a try.   In any case, a V block is a standard
> tool, so it will be useful to make and have one in the shop.  I have made V
> blocks by welding a piece of angle iron into an appropriately sized  piece
> of channel.
>
> regards,
> D-ski
> Westminster, MD
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Widham, Mitchell P." <widha8d3 at erau.edu>
> To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 10:30 AM
> Subject: [TheForge] (no subject)
>
>
> Help old wise Smiths.
>
> I am fairly new at blacksmithing and have a question on a forging
> technique. I have never seen anyone or read anything about forging three
> sided objects. I have a couple of projects that I would like to use
> triangle shaped stock, out of 1/2 inch round or square stock. One being
> a spike for Tomahawks and the other being spikes for a set of tree
> climbers. I don't have a V shaped swage block only half round, could I
> make one out of heavy angle iron, or do you just hammer it, turning 1/3
> each hit? These spikes would be tapered from 1/2 inch to a sharp point
> and maybe curved.
>
>
> Mitch Widham
> Operations Supervisor
> Campus Safety Department
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>
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Tod Estes

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