[TheForge] Art, doncha know....

[GRAF]

Considering the placement of the sponsors in their given societies, the 
argument can be well made that Raphael, da Vinci and Michelangelo were 
public artists.

Mike Graf

Bob Ehrenberger wrote:
> Everyone has an opinion, and so do I.
>
> I think that a big part of the problem is government sponsored art.  Just 
> like insurance, when the person making the decision is not paying the bill, 
> the system is broken.  When the government wants to support art, it gives a 
> bunch of money to a so-called expert who them hires a friend to produce 
> something to sell to the government. If that expert had to spend his own 
> money, a lot less crap would be produced.  One of you said that good art 
> stands on its own. I agree, and if it is good, someone will be willing to 
> spend their own money on it.  When they are writing checks out of someone 
> elses account, the standard goes down the tube.
>
> In summary, you can make and sell anything you want. You can call it art if 
> you want.  But con't make me pay for it with my taxes.
>
> Robert Ehrenberger
> Shelbyville, Mo.
> eforge at centurytel.net
>
> -----Original Message-----
>   
>> From: George Dixon <gdblacksmith at charter.net>
>> Sent: Nov 7, 2007 3:11 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Art, doncha know....
>>
>> The assertion that 'art is in the eye of the beholder' is more of an
>> intellectual conversation stopper than an intellectual truth.
>>
>> Perhaps analogy would make my perspective clearer:
>> I dislike country music...I like other styles of music.  However, any
>> music poorly delivered sounds bad to anyone in earshot, like the
>> genre or not.
>>
>> It is obvious to the ear that music played onna out-of-tune
>> instrument, country or classical, is being poorly executed.
>> Unfortunately the human eye does not have the instinctual reaction to
>> bad 'art' that the ear has to bad musical execution.....
>>
>> The result is art-speak, explanatory titles and 'eye of the beholder'
>> compassion.
>>
>> Again, the work stands alone and no amount of wishful thinking or
>> nonjudgmental equivocations can change that.
>>
>>
>> In most cases there is no record of what an artist was thinking as he
>> carved or painted or forged...there is simply the work itself.
>>
>>
>> George Dixon
>>     
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