[TheForge] Dumpster Diving

[Craig Schaefer]

LAWYERS would cite as unreliable source as WIKIPEDIA?????

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "terry l. ridder" <terrylr at blauedonau.com>
To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: [TheForge] Dumpster Diving


> On Sun, 20 May 2007 dann at wctatel.net wrote:
> 
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> <snip post about dumpster diving>
> 
> a quick check with my lawyers indicate that at many counties in illinois
> specifically state that anything in a dumpster becomes property of the
> waste hauler. the problems with dumpster diving become more complicated
> if the dumpster diver is committing trespass to even get to the
> dumpster. the example they gave as construction sites and demolition
> sites.
> 
> their explanation concerning the legal reason against dumpster diving is
> below.
> 
> <begin lawyer quote>
> This is limited to the three most common
> categories of property, lost, mislaid/misplaced,
> and abandoned.
> 
> Anything in a dumpster cannot be considered
> lost since it is assumed that the title owner
> or by a person acting on behalf of title
> owner the property placed it in the dumpster.
> 
> Anything in a dumpster cannot be considered
> mislaid/misplaced for the same reason given
> for the lost category.
> 
> Anything in a dumpster cannot be considered
> abandoned since the title owner or a person
> acting on behalf of the title owner of the
> property placed it in the dumpster for the
> specific purpose of being hauled way and
> processed by the waste hauler.
> <end   lawyer quote>
> 
> to avoid the possible hassles they strongly suggest using freecycle
> or similar community organization.
> 
> unlike marine law where there are distinctions between flotsam and
> jetsam the equilvalent on land are not as clear cut. on land there
> is lost, mislaid/misplace, and abandoned. there is also the old american
> common law treasure trove however my lawyers indicate that that is being
> discarded by many courts.
> 
> below are urls my lawyers have suggested for the non-lawyer person.
> 
> flotsam and jetson
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flotsam
> 
> lost, mislaid, abandoned property
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost%2C_mislaid%2C_and_abandoned_property
> 
> treasure trove
> http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/trove/
> 
> TANSTAFL. There aint no such thing as free lunch.
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> terry l. ridder ><>
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