[TheForge] Another subject line, by request.

[Craig Schaefer]

It's just not going to sink in.

By the way, Phlip, did I miss something?  What's up with the HIPAA 
disclosure?

CraigS
Gresham, OR
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Saint Phlip" <phlip at 99main.com>
To: <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 7:19 PM
Subject: [TheForge] Another subject line, by request.


> On 5/18/07, terry l. ridder <terrylr at blauedonau.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 18 May 2007, Saint Phlip wrote:
>>
>> >
>> <major snip>
>>
>> so to paraphrase your long posting.
>> the person instead of reporting the theft to the owner of the chemicals
>> should have asked the thief to return the said chemicals to the rightful
>> owner. do i have the correct?
>
> Thief? WHAT FLAMING THIEF?
>
> We're talking about someone who thought they were doing the right
> thing, and who perhaps might have been subject to gentle guidance by a
> friend. And, we're talking about a person who has high standards of
> personal honor, and has been a friend to all of us on this List.
>
>> that is the most stupid logic i have ever heard.
>
> Nothing stupid about logic. Sometimes some awfully stupid people,
> however, pretend that logic is what they're using.
>
>> using your logic: if some has knowledge of any crime they should approach
>> the criminal and reason with the criminal about the crime said criminal
>> has committed instead of going to the proper authorities and reporting
>> the said crime. that is a good way to end up dead.
>
> So, your child kypes a candy bar from the charity display at the bank,
> you should call the FBI in and have them arrested for bank robbery,
> with all associated penalties?
>
> While we're at it, why don't we remove the hands of thieves, no matter
> how small or contested the theft. Or, simplify things. Any time anyone
> does anything anyone else thinks is wrong, just put them to death, and
> let God sort them out. Of course, in a case like that, the complaining
> party would have to step forward.
>
>> i do realize there are those cases where it is not clear who the good
>> and bad guys are , one example the chicago police department. the police
>> in chicago are the dope dealers and the thugs. they particularly like
>> beating up people in bars. google news chicago police department
>> in those cases i would recommend the next level of authority.
>> the county sherif or the state police.
>
> And, of course, there are the situations where average people do
> something ethically wrong, and try to escape any onus by trying to
> prove moral superiority.
>
>> i personally think the person in question got off extremely light.
>> whoever, reported the incident, could just have easily reported it
>> to the fbi tip line or the department of homeland insecurity.
>> be reasonable a list of chemicals like that is going to raise
>> eyebrows in this new age of war on terror.
>> there are numerous examples of home grown terrorists.
>
> I personally think the sneaky, slimy, crawling, gonadless snitch who
> handled the matter as s/he did needs a long session with a clue-bat
> being applied upside the head. At least with a thief, you can get your
> stuff back. With a snitch, you're guilty whether you are or not.
>
>
> -- 
> Saint Phlip
>
> Heat it up
> Hit it hard
> Repent as necessary.
>
> Priorities:
>
> It's the smith who makes the tools, not the tools which make the smith.
>
> HIPAA Penalties
>
> 42USC1320d-6 Wrongful disclosure of individually identifiable health 
> information
>
> (a) Offense
>
> A person who knowingly and in violation of this part-
>
> (1) uses or causes to be used a unique health identifier;
>
> (2) obtains individually identifiable health information relating to
> an individual; or
>
> (3) discloses individually identifiable health information to another 
> person,
>
> shall be punished as provided in subsection (b).
>
> (b) Penalties
>
> A person described in subsection (a) shall-
>
> (1) be fined not more than $50,000, imprisoned not more than 1 year, or 
> both;
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