[TheForge] Aluminum pans and Alzheimers (was: Iron in the Fire)

Sat Mar 10 13:44:32 EST 2007

Welders, as a profession, have the highest incidence of Parkinson's Disease.

Some believe it is related to the metal oxides we breath while working.

There is some relation between Parkinson's Disease,  Lewy Body Dimentia
and Alzheimers' Diementia , in that all three have dying neurons being
plugged up with mal-formed proteins, that can't seem to be excreted across
cell membranes.

Aluminum is everywhere, in buffered asperin,  in deododerant, and probably
some in the beer that I drank from a can last night.

What Bruce was talking about is documented on the Alzheimer's web page,
linked below.

<http://www.alz.org/documents/national/FSAluminum.pdf>

Besides the aluminum salts, Alzheimers has also linked with toxic effects
of some copper salts and also with iron.

Still: the key diagnositic of Alzheimers is the presence of amyloid
deposits, aluminum linked deposits in dead neurons via autopsy.

SO, even after all the reading,  I choose to cook my food in a seasoned
cast iron skillet, and I drink as much beer as possible from glass bottles
rather than from the aluminum can <grins>.

Dann

> Well.....still not as bad as the nitwit who wrote "The Arming of America"
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of Bruce Freeman
> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 5:55 AM
> To: theforge at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [TheForge] Aluminum pans and Alzheimers (was: Iron in the Fire)
>
>
> Rumor from a reliable source (a PhD chemist friend who worked among other
> things with scanning electron microscopy = "SEC", a technique that can
> find
> chemical elements on a sample surface) says that the "aluminum causes
> Alzheirmers" is an urban legend originating from a stupidly done piece of
> research.
>
> It seems (so the rumor goes) that some researchers were scanning brain
> slices from Alzheimers victims, and noticed aluminum concentrations in
> brain
> regions associated with the ailment.  Aha!, they said.  Except, they
> didn't
> bother checking with the scientists who prepared the brain slices.  It
> seems
> that those folks had used an aluminum-containing dye in the prep work.
> Oops!
>
> Bottom line:  Aluminum in food is harmless.  By the time it gets into
> food,
> it's thoroughly oxidized and as inert as clay (of which it is a principal
> component).
>
> Yes, this sort of thing really happens.  In Nature magazine, back in the
> 70's, was published an article refuting a study in which some sort of
> learning behavior in cats, along the lines oflike rats hitting bars to get
> food or brain stimulas rewards.  The doofus who set up the study used
> verticle bars that the cats would rub up against.  He didn't take into
> account that cats will rub up against ANYTHING for social reasons.  His
> study results were garbage.  Anytime a researcher walked into the room,
> the
> cats would rub against the bars!
>
> Bruce
> NJ
>
>>>> rick at smokyforge.com 3/8/2007 6:49 PM >>>
> With all the information about Alzheimer's (sp?) I wouldn't like to eat
> anything off aluminum.  My dad has that damned disease.
>
> Rick Crawford at Smoky Forge
> Home of Lem the Wonder Mule and
> Mol ASS es the slow Donkey
> in the middle of Northern Illinois
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jerry Frost" <frosty at customcpu.com>
> To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 2:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Iron in the Fire
>
>
>>
>> From: "Woolley" <wjec at verizon.net>
>>
>>
>>> Terry,
>>>
>>> Mild steel plate won't eventually warp and crumble with everyday use?
>>> 3/8 is going to be too heavy. Maybe I'm being clue less here given the
>>> prevalence of  metal cookware made of AL, stainless etc., but I'm
>>> thinking of what happened to mild steel when I used it to repair
>>> andirons, it burned up. This is something that will be used alot in a
>>> commercial kitchen.
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> No, mild steel will work fine, it seasons like cast iron and unless you
>> leave it outside it'll last generations.
>>
>> If you want to make it lighter than say 1/4"(?) I don't know how thin is
>> too thin for a griddle, you'll want to put a rim around it to help
>> prevent
>> warpage. Putting most of the rim under the cooking face will help trap
>> heat from the burners and is probably a good idea no matter how thick
>> you
>> make it.
>>
>> The best argument for using thicker steel, cast iron, aluminum, etc. is
>> it's cooking properties. The thicker the griddle the more even the heat
>> and the less it'll chill when cold food hits it. The griddle on my
>> Viking
>> range top is around 1 1/8" cast aluminum and produces pro results.
>>
>> Frosty
>> -------------------------------
>> If it ain't forged
>> it ain't real.
>> Wrought iron is.
>> The FrostWorks
>>
>> Meadow Lakes, AK.
>>
>> http://www.artmetalradio.com/
>>
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