[TheForge] "Official" news from ABANA N+1

[Saint Phlip]

OK, after all these limitations, listed below, why the bloody blue
blazes did you want to do the conference at New Paltz? Are you guys
going out of your ways to find reasons to fail?

On 2/19/07, Dave Mudge <dave at magichammer.net> wrote:
> All very good suggestions Grover.
>
> On 2/19/07, Grover Richardson <grover.richardson at gtri.gatech.edu> wrote:
> > A renegade solution.
> >
> >
> > Look at what a good price to charge people to attend will be (based upon
> > regional sized conferences).
>
> ..........The 2008 Conference Committee was charged with trying to put
> together a conference (abana style) based on 650 full paid attendees
> where the full package would cost under $600 per full paid attendee.
> We were not able to do that given the parameter's with which we had to
> work. Meaning at the school at New Paltz, within a given time limit.
> >
> > Subtract the known costs (insurance, communications, etc.)
>
> ..........Finding the "known costs" was an extremely difficult job.
> Try to find industrial rental equipment in an up-scale residential
> neighborhood.
> >
> > Then do the best that may be done with the rest of the money.  But let
> > people know up front what amenities will be available so that they won't be
> > surprised.
>
> .......... Every aspect of an ABANA Conference is well advertised,
> well in advance. There should be no surprises for anyone.
> >
> > It's called a budget.
>
> ..........Come on, we have more budget details than you can imagine.
> >
> > Only the government can spend more than the budget and continue to operate.
> >
> > This isn't a $500.00 a plate charity dinner where the big whigs go and sip
> > wine.  This is a place where blacksmiths go to learn how to earn a better
> > living and to show off what they have already accomplished.
>
> ..........You must be talking about Seattle. I didn't have anything to
> do with that.
> >
> >
> > Tertiary comments...
> >
> > To have more than 4 forge stations set up is a great thing, it gives
> > options.  But since a body can watch only one forge station at a time, the
> > return for the individual's investment is limited.
>
> ..........You can't put 500 - 1000 people around one or two
> demonstrators. First most couldn't see or hear what was going on and
> second the Fire Marshall doesn't want more than  150 people in a tent
> at a time. As a matter of fact, the insurance won't let us have open
> fires in tents, so they have to be called canopies.
> >
> > The SERC has on ground camping for those who wish to use it.  And there are
> > motels nearby for those who don't wish to camp.  There are bleachers, but
> > anyone who wishes brings a fold up chair.
>
> ..........New Paltz wouldn't allow camping on campus and there are
> fewer than 100 hotel rooms in the area. In Richmond (2004) fewer than
> 10 people out of nearly 1000 camped.
> dave m
> >
> > Off to work<G>.


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