[TheForge] Abana insurance

[Grant Marcoux]

I have the Hartford's contents and public liability coverage, via Industrial
Coverage Corp.  They do not underwrite teaching operations, nor do they
offer health insurance.  I have brought the issue of teaching coverage and
medical insurance up, informally, with a couple of ABANA board members.
Given the current backlog of projects, I don't think they have the band
width to tackle this right away.

In some locales, Chambers of Commerce often make group health coverage
available.  My local CofC does this through Kaiser/Permanente.

I have spoken with insurance underwriters who have told me that the risks
involved in insurance for smithing schools is so high that a Lloyd's of
London type carrier is likely the only entity that will underwrite
blacksmithing schools.

Maybe this is so, maybe not...not my area of expertise

Grant
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of Albin
Drzewianowski
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 11:48 AM
To: artgawk at thegrid.net; Sponsored by ABANA
Subject: Re: [TheForge] Abana insurance


Peter,

did you specifically speak with Michael Romeo,  800-242-9872 ext.115.  He is
the one we dealt with when we were setting up the Guild's policy.  I got the
impression he was the only one who seemed to know anything about
blacksmiths.

Or did you just contact your local The Hartford agent?

If Michael Romeo and THE HARTFORD / INDUSTRIAL COVERAGE CORP did not want to
provide you with coverage,  ABANA should know about that.  The add in AR
specifically says  coverage for Hobbyists, part time and full time
blacksmiths.   I am looking at the ad in the Fall 2007 issue of  AR.

D-ski
Westminster, MD
"The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne"


----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Fels And Phoebe Palmer" <artgawk at thegrid.net>
To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: [TheForge] Abana insurance


> ABANA has grown into a substantial institution...the disadvantages are
> apparent; but there should be some advantages too.
> Hartford wasn't interested in covering my small rural operation at all.
> ABANA shop and health insurance seems like a fine idea...otherwise it's
> mostly an expensive magazine subscription for many of us...pf
>
> Albin Drzewianowski wrote:
>> I don't remember ABANA doing anything with health insurance.  Although
>> that certainly an area they should be helping out in.
>>
>> The insurance that ABANA worked out with  THE HARTFORD / INDUSTRIAL
>> COVERAGE CORP  was shop and liability insurance, a commercial insurance
>> program.  Our club here in Maryland has our shop and liability insurance
>> with them.  Can't really say how good they are, as we have never had to
>> file a claim,  yet ((loudly knocks on wood))  They usually advertise on
>> either the inside of the front or back cover of ANVIL's Ring.
>>
>> D-ski
>> Westminster, MD
>> "The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne"
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "lee robbins" <naturadoc1 at yahoo.com>
>> To: <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 5:31 PM
>> Subject: [TheForge] Abana insurance
>>
>>
>> hi All,
>> as a nonpracticing ER physician, artist-naturalist i
>> have gotten my health insurance from the chamber of
>> commerce. The chamber has changed carriers. I wonder
>> if there is still insurance available through Abana
>> and if anyone has used it and had any experience with
>> it.
>>
>> Lee Robbins
>> flying tortoise forge studio
>>
>>
>>
>>
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