[TheForge] RE: Deep draw steel Stick rod vs mig

[David E. Smucker]

Peter,  Have you tried welding deep drawing steel - using TIG and using soft 
tie wire for the rod.  (tie wire used to tie concrete rebar.)   It is close 
to the same steel as deep drawing steel.  Using this for rod your parent 
metal must be very clean because there are no additives in the tie wire --  
just plain low carbon steel.

Dave
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Fels And Phoebe Palmer" <artgawk at thegrid.net>
To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 3:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TheForge] RE: Stick rod vs mig (Larry Brown)


> When forging hollow body pieces..synclastic forming sort of stuff where 
> the steel is really pushed to it's limits....I've had great difficulty 
> continuing to work previously welded areas.
> Crack repair most commonly is where i encounter problems.
> I've tried different kinds of welding (MIG,TIG,stick, gas,), filler 
> material, prep, post weld grinding, heat treating...most everything i 
> could think of over the years.
> Some techniques work better than others, but none work well.
> I've not been using deep draw steel however.
> Sure would welcome a solution.
>
> tbrforge wrote:
>>    Larry,
>>     I  have  noticed  that  Mig  welded then hammered left an undercut or
>>    inclusive  like  zone  around  the  outside  HAZ (heat affected zone).
>>    However,  I  regularly  TIG  joints,  especially on small joints and a
>>    little  hammer  work  blends  the weld almost invisibly. It rivals the
>>    cosmetics of a good forge weld. That is my opinion.
>>    Terry
>>    TBRForge
>>    Athens Ga.
>> _______________________________________________
>> Manage membership or unsubscribe at:
>> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/theforge
>> theforge mail list group photo site is
>> http://www.photoaccess.com
>> Login:  blacksmithblacksmith at hotmail.com
>> password:  anvil
>> ___________
>>
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Manage membership or unsubscribe at:
> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/theforge
> theforge mail list group photo site is
> http://www.photoaccess.com
> Login:  blacksmithblacksmith at hotmail.com
> password:  anvil
> ___________
>
>
>