[TheForge] Price of Copper

Bruce Freeman FREEMAB at pt.fdah.com
Wed Apr 25 10:31:45 EDT 2007 

Jerry,
No expert, I.  
I was thinking of plating AFTER making the piece.  So you'd change over to the appropriate means for steel, then get the whole thing plated.  Depends a lot on what you're doing - which I have no idea.  You can do plating yourself on a small scale, but I take it you're not working small scale.
I doubt you could forge copper clad steel.  I have heard that "gold filled" "base metals" are used for glasses frames, and that these materials are worked - drawn, I think - as a unit.
Bruce
NJ

>>> jerry_smith at anvilsandinkstudios.com 4/25/2007 9:17 AM >>>
Bruce.

 That would be nice, if I could work the steel the
same I work the pure copper. When I weld the seams
together which method do I use to keep the surface
copper coated?

Jerry
--- Bruce Freeman <FREEMAB at pt.fdah.com> wrote:

> Are you speaking of plumbing or artwork?
> If artwork, how about copper-plated steel, instead
> of copper.  If the plating is thick enough it should
> weather like copper.
> Bruce
> NJ
> 
> >>> jerry_smith at anvilsandinkstudios.com 4/24/2007
> 3:55 PM >>>
> That is what my insurance folks are twlling me, two
> projects that were almost all copper, about 1800
> pounds worth was canceled. 
> 
> Jerry
> --- debmiller at fuse.net wrote:
> 
> > Reis,
> > 
> > Are you experiencing any apprehension with clients
> > about theft of work after it's installed?
> > 
> > Around here some projects have been cancelled due
> to
> > fear that it could not be protected.
> > 
> > Ray
> > 
> > ---- ries <ries at riesniemi.com> wrote: 
> > > This seems to be a case of local law enforcement
> > will power.
> > > Some parts of the country still have Barney
> Fife,
> > it seems.
> > > Here in go-go washington state, that stuff would
> > never fly.
> > > I had a call a while ago from my waterjet
> cutter-
> > he had a bunch of  
> > > my stock, stainless that I owned, out in his
> > parking lot, and one day  
> > > some was gone.
> > > Next day, they get a call from the local
> recycler,
> > saying, some guy  
> > > tried to sell us something we think is yours.
> > > Sheriff was down at the recycler next day, and
> the
> > guy got arrrested.
> > > They kept my slab of stainless for a few months
> > for evidence, and  
> > > then I got it back.
> > > No further thefts from the waterjet guy.
> > > 
> > > If the cops want to arrest these guys, they do.
> > > Lazy cop- No doughnut.
> > > 
> > > ries
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Apr 24, 2007, at 6:57 AM, Ron Childers wrote:
> > > 
> > > Years ago I investigated the vandalism of a new
> > school under  
> > > construction.
> > > The thieves hauled away several truck loads of
> > aluminum grating. When I
> > > found out who was buying it, I told the
> insurance
> > company I could  
> > > confirm it
> > > with a visit to the scrap yard with a camera.
> The
> > company did not  
> > > want to
> > > incur the cost of additional investigation. They
> > had the same  
> > > attitude with
> > > several arsons including houses, vehicles, and
> > large sail boats;  
> > > tried to
> > > handle it by phone. (Call the yard and ask if
> > there is any stolen stuff
> > > there?), um... duh. The sheriff's dept in that
> > county couldn't find an
> > > elephant in a phone booth; the scrap yard had
> > large rolls of 1" copper
> > > tubing, large buss bars 4"x1/2" x 4', and large
> > rolls of copper  
> > > ground wire,
> > > all brand new. They don't ask; don't tell.
> > > 
> > > Ron C
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net 
> > > [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On
> > Behalf Of Jerry Smith
> > > Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 8:09 PM
> > > To: Sponsored by ABANA
> > > Subject: Re: [TheForge] Price of Copper
> > > 
> > > Charles,
> > > 
> > > I have forgot how much copper there is out
> there,
> > a
> > > well as aluminum. I spent a few years as a pole
> > > climber for Ma Bell and for what became Time
> > Warner.
> > > Lots of copper and aluminum on those poles and
> in
> > the
> > > ground. Every pot pole has a ground, so easy
> > pickings
> > > there and pulling a ground rod can be done
> really
> > > quick with an old fashion car jack.
> > > 
> > > But out here in BFE Ohio, no one notices their
> > phone
> > > does work til daylight, after the thieves have
> > dropped
> > > two span of phone trunk. It took them not very
> > long
> > > and they knew what they were doing.
> > > 
> > > I just want to know who the middle man is to
> fence
> > > these things or they probaby drive up to one of
> > the
> > > ports where the ships are.
> > > 
> > > Jerry
> > > 
> > > 
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