[TheForge] illinois electrical rates

[Jerry Smith]

Get the largest magnet that you can find and place
behind the power meter.

--- Michael <michael.a.porter at comcast.net> wrote:

> Terry,
> The pneumatic idea won't work, but there are other
> things ranging from the
> practical to the whimsical.
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> (1) Not all power use affects the meter the same.
> Electricians can go into
> this much better than I, but here's a little story
> to illustrate the point:
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> The power bill in my shop (Orange County, California
> 1970) was split into
> single and three-phase portions. Only the 110V was
> on single phase. All of
> the 220V power was from a separate three phase line.
> All the equipment other
> than hand grinder, lights, phone, adding machine,
> and coffee pot was 220V. I
> didn't use much light in the shop, and what there
> was in both shop and
> office was fluorescent. The welders, compressor,
> punch press, scroll bender,
> and picket twister were all 220V; the
> three-phase(220V) bill average about
> $25, and the single phase ran between $120 and $135
> per month...
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> (2) It may only be an urban myth, but I've heard
> that high-speed motors (ex.
> grinders) really excite an electrical meter. I've
> also heard that
> electricity can be passed through a three-phase
> motor generator and still
> make great savings on an electrical bill--even with
> the energy loss by doing
> so.
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> (3) Some warm-glass enthusiasts I've talked to
> recommend using a
> motor-generator to make your own electricity for
> high use purposes, and only
> using utility power in the normal way at home. You
> can probably hook up a
> generator to a natural gas feed and run circles
> around the electrical
> company rates.
> 
> My conclusion: If you want to defend yourself
> against greedy utilities, your
> fight will take place at the meter. Any electrical
> types may feel free to
> jump in at this point.
> Mikey
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf
> Of terry l. ridder
> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 10:44 AM
> To: theforge at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [TheForge] illinois electrical rates
> 
> hello;
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> illinois residential electrical rates are going up
> 20% next year. this
> is going to be a hit for me. so i am looking at
> places were i can
> conserve on electrical usage.
> 
> switching out to all pneumatic tools from electrical
> tools and
> purchasing or salvaging a non-electrical air
> compressor and a large air
> reservoir.
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> a new/used 500 gallon bulk propane tank, would make
> a large air
> reservior.
> 
> would anyone know of any studies done concerning the
> energy savings
> between electrical and pneumatic tools?
> 
> also what other areas should i look at for possible
> conservation?
> the garage and shop has propane gas lights as does
> my computer room. the
> propane gas lights provide light and heat during the
> long winter nights.
> 
> -- 
> terry l. ridder ><>
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