[TheForge] eliptical rings on a cone mandrel?
wmullett at bright.net
wmullett at bright.net
Fri Nov 17 16:23:49 EST 2006
The ellipse formed by a cone is not symmetrical.
>
> From: "Bruce Freeman" <FREEMAB at pt.fdah.com>
> Date: Fri Nov 17, 9:45 AM
> To: <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [TheForge] eliptical rings on a cone mandrel?
>
> I don't happen to have a cone mandrel, so can't try this myself. I'm
> hoping someone can give it a quick try and let the rest of us know how
> it works:
>
> Those of you who suffered through algebra are aware of the "conic
> sections" - shapes that can be derived mathematically from a cone. The
> circle, for example is a horizontal slice through a cone. Blacksmiths
> make use of this by using a cone mandrel to make perfectly circular
> rings.
>
> What is not so obvious is that the elipse, the parabola, and the
> hyperbola are all also conic sections. If look at a cone from the side,
> it's a triangle. (Mathematically, it's two triangles, one upside down
> atop the other, but we don't have to bother about that. One "half-cone"
> will do.) Draw a horizontal line through this triangle (i.e., of the
> cone), and, as I said above, you've got a circle on the cone. Draw
> vertical line through this triangle and you have a parabolic curve on
> the cone - interesting, but probably not too useful. (And the hyperbola
> is even worse.)
>
> But an elipse is also possible. An elipse arises from an angle between
> horzontal and vertical. And they're really cool shapes.
>
> So, make a ring. Round it up on the cone. Then take it off the cone
> and hammer it from the side to make it somewhat oblong. Put it back on
> the cone and hold it at an angle (say, 30 to 60 degrees from horizontal)
> and "elipse" it up on the cone. Got that?
>
> If some interested folk could try this out and report back, I'd like to
> hear about it.
>
> (I suspect the trick to make this practical might be to make it
> narrower than wanted on the anvil, as the thing will tend back to round
> on the cone. It also may be necessary to take it off the cone
> occassionally to flatten the plane of the ring against the anvil.)
>
> Bruce
> NJ
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