[TheForge] burning water

Bruce Freeman FREEMAB at pt.fdah.com
Thu May 18 08:04:17 EDT 2006


I didn't poke around on the site at all, so don't know what this guy is
claiming.

However, if you electrolyse water (breaking it down to H2 and O2),
partially atomize one or both of these pure gases with a spark
discharge, and then recombine and ignite them, you WILL get a very high
energy (and presumably high temperature) flame.  (That's assuming you
don't blow yourself up in the process.  But I don't want to encourage
you guys TOO much!) 

Of course, ALL the energy comes from the electricity consumed.  

Bruce
NJ

>>> jeff.polaski at rgs.uci.edu 5/17/2006 7:03:24 PM >>>
Well, I poked around on the site for a few minutes and found more of
an
explanation, but his claim of finding a "new form of water" seems
pretty
suspicious. It could very well be some sort of Philo T. Farnsworth
situation, but it seems very suspicious to me. 

Especially his claim that "the HHO gas does not require oxygen for
combustion since the gas contains in its interior all oxygen needed
for
that scope, as it is also the case for the Brown gas." Maybe he's
producing hydrogen peroxide or some such thing. 

Jeff Polaski
Research and Graduate Studies Webmaster
University of California, Irvine
http://www.rgs.uci.edu/ 
949.824.6363

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It sounds like he's using an already available technology and
"repackaging" it, while making it seem like more than is actually
there.

I remember that hydrogen, produced by electrolysis, was used for
welding, although I don't remember the exact reason it was used.
(Maybe
for jewelry shops or something? I'm sure a welder would be able to say
more).

Anyway, there is no comment on how efficient his system is. For
example,
if it takes far more energy to get his "HHO" fuel that you could get
out
of, say cracking natural gas, then it's not going to be feasible for
most situations.

And I really doubt he's found a way to burn water. I'm not sure what
he
means by "HHO", but that actually *is* water (i.e. "HHO" *is* H2O). 

I don't know, but I'd be very suspicious of these claims...


Jeff Polaski
Research and Graduate Studies Webmaster
University of California, Irvine
http://www.rgs.uci.edu/ 
949.824.6363

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