[TheForge] Re: insulated shop floor
GHS
GHS at execpc.com
Tue Mar 28 12:03:50 EST 2006
Dann Johnson wrote:
>
> We always put "frost footings" under all our outbuildings, even on the
> edges of poured slabs. We do this to keep rodents, and digging
> animals like skunks & wood chucks from underminining the concrete. I
> can understand styrofoam on the exterior of the footing, but not under
> the shop floor. My 50 cents, is that unless you are using the
> concrete floor as 75 degree temp, people- living space, that the heat
> loss through the floor won't be significant.
> I insulated & sheetrocked the walls of garage, and then blew a foot of
> insulation in the attic. Even in the unheated garage in a North Iowa
> winter, the floor never froze. (Provided that I remember to shut the
> garage doors). Almost always before, we had ice on the garage floor
> from November to March, from water that dripped down off cars after
> parking in the garage. Past couple winters, after the insulation, the
> water that dripped down off the cars, to the floor actually dried up,
> rather than froze.
> There may only be a few degrees different from the average ground
> temp, to the average shop temp. I can't imagine heating a shop to
> shirt sleeve temps. 55 or 60 degrees is pretty confortable when you
> are working, especially when the forge gets up to temp.
>
> Dann Johnson
Dann, part of the resaon is just the heat sink factor.
Some folks think I am nuts for putting away my aluminun scaffolds during
the winter and using wooden planks, until they spend a day standing on
sthe wood. The calves stop aching because the chill is gone. Even a few
degrees make a difference.
As far as insulating the whole floor if you should decide on the in
floor radiant( I would not for this application) insulating the whole
floor beneath the heat seperates it from the heat sink of the soil. In
that type of system you just want to heat the concrete. It is cheaper
that way.
Personally, I would use a unit heater with ceiling mounted electric or
gas fired radiant over critical work stations where comfort was an
issue. Keep the whole place at 45*F or so and then toast myself at
times when I am doing detail work that doesn't require much excertion.
Mike Graf
Mike Graf
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