[TheForge] burners and other addictions

[Mike Porter]

Now, you've left me behind Frosty,
 What kind of recuperation do you mean if not recuperating heat? How do you 
recuperate heat if not by transferring it to incoming combustion air?

Mikey

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jerry Frost" <frosty at customcpu.com>
To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 8:47 PM
Subject: Re: [TheForge] burners and other addictions


>I said MY ideas for a recuperative wall furnace. I've been kicking it 
>around since the internet went public and I found the old IBM patent 
>server.
>
> They not only had a propane forge burner that was exactly the same as the 
> Aussie burner. The patent was from 1933 and it was for an improvement to 
> the forge itself, not the burner. There were at least three (that I 
> recall) entirely different recuperative wall furnace designs. One was 
> specifically to produce a highly reducing atmosphere for forging specialty 
> metals.
>
> The recuperative wall I decided on was pretty simple and eliminated the 
> need or even desirability for preheating intake air.
>
> I don't recall anything about buoyancy though. The fluidized bed furnaces 
> were way different. Of course there were so many furnace patents I'd still 
> be reading if I wanted to just skim the legal on each.
>
> Frosty
> -------------------------------
> If it ain't forged
> it ain't real.
> Wrought iron is.
> The FrostWorks
>
> Meadow Lakes, AK.
>
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>
>
>
> From: "Mike Porter" <michael.a.porter at comcast.net>
>
>
>> Too late for that Frosty,
>> Where do you think the ceramic refinements for ceramic chip forges have 
>> been coming from? A recuperative wall furnace has been worming its merry 
>> way around my brain for almost five years now; not that it isn't 
>> perfectly addicting, but my mind is already pretty well ravaged with that 
>> one :) I was a little surprised that the guys didn't jump all over the 
>> idea of a recuperative fire box, driven by the power of buoyancy. Of 
>> course, they haven't any idea how difficult buoyancy is to overcome in a 
>> passive furnace system that draws air down two feet, so they can't know 
>> what a privilege it is to use buoyancy for heat savaging, instead of 
>> fighting it!
>> Mikey
>
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