[TheForge] Spare tire hammer workshop

[Wayne Ackman]

The biggest difference for non-profits is that they don't have to pay 
taxes.  They definitely run their operations with an intent to bring 
revenues to the bottom line.  These can then be used to reinvest in the 
business or bonus to the officers and employees.  I have even know 
officers of non-profits who managed to sell the businesses, usually by 
owning the property separately and selling it at an inflated price to 
cover the value of the business.  I must admit I have known more 
operators using the non-profit status for personal reasons than for 
altruistic ones.  course I probably ran in the wrong circles.  :-)

Wayne

Bob Ehrenberger wrote:

>Not-for-profit doesn't mean that they don't have to recover their operating
>expences.  And a state of the art facility is not cheep to put together.
>They just can't show a profit after they pay their expences.  I'm sure the
>school does what it can to keep the cost of classes down, but they will have
>to charge more than just material cost.
>
>I worked for Mastercard for 15 years and they were not-for-profit back then.
>We
>were a service organization for the banks, who did make a profit. Big time.
>They have since changed into a for-profit corp.  I have no idea how things
>have changed, but hopefully they don't have to beg for a sponsor every time
>they have a development project.
>
>Robert Ehrenberger
>Shelbyville, Mo.
>eforge at centurytel.net
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>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Albin Drzewianowski" <dski1045 at qis.net>
>To: "Bob Ehrenberger" <eforge at centurytel.net>; "Sponsored by ABANA"
><theforge at mailman.qth.net>
>Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 1:03 PM
>Subject: Re: [TheForge] Spare tire hammer workshop
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>My understanding is that the school itself is a not-for-profit educational
>entity.  I am betting that they will probably be buying new materials for
>the hammers, and not scrounging.  But because of the welding school and the
>association with (I think it is) Maine Oxy (a welding supply company) I bet
>they get a really good price for the steel compared to if you or I went to
>buy it.
>
>In case you have not yet taken a class there. NESM is a large modern
>facility.  Half the building is a blacksmith school and the other half of
>the building is a welding school.  i.e. all the latest welding equipment.
>
>I can't think of a better facility to hold a  power or treadle hammer
>building workshop:  space,  power,  equipment.  And because its a welding
>school,  multiples of most of the welders, etc
>
>regards,
>D-ski
>Westminster, MD
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Bob Ehrenberger" <eforge at centurytel.net>
>To: "theforge" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
>Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 10:39 AM
>Subject: [TheForge] Spare tire hammer workshop
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>>We recently discussed making tire hammers.
>>
>>Well a filer came from the "New England School of Metalwork" and they are
>>having a class in October with Clay Spencer.  So if you live in the NE and
>>you are interested in a tire hammer this may be your class.  Cost is $1375
>>which is a little higher than when a local group puts together a workshop
>>and does all the scrounging. I'm sure the school has to make a profit and
>>this looks pretty reasonable.
>>
>>contact at www.newenglandschoolofmetalwork.com
>>
>>Robert Ehrenberger
>>Shelbyville, Mo.
>>eforge at centurytel.net
>>
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