[TheForge] glass doors

[Ralph Sproul]

	Hi Roger, Thanks for the three sided slide in info on the angles - I've
seen this used on masonry furnace doors my buddy does. The sealing gasket
was a mystery to me as it was all welted in rope - and this grey material
you mention is something I'd like to know more about.

When you say the grey colored gasket stuff is this something the glass
supplier provides for you? or did you purchase this seperate from McMaster
or another
similar industrial supplier? or is this material a refractory supplier that
you use?

If you have time, I know you've posted the three glass types for fire
exposure before (but I'll be damned if I can find them).  Being as I'm being
asked to
do one of these screen & glass combo covers, would you have that info again
on the glasses?

Thanks for any info you've got as someone that's done over 30 of these sure
has a lot more knowledge than me attempting my first glass enclosure.

I've also heard that using the same pintle with an L bracket hinge to the
rear screen allows both door units to swing out and be inside each other
when closed (screen in and glass out - then when open the glass is against
the outer hearth/chimney, and the screen is in use or can be opened more
than 90 degrees for ease of loading.  Is this how you approach this as well?

I remember you sent me some nice picture of the hinges you made - but it was
for one set of doors - what have you done for swinging both doors when
requested?  Of have you done just screen or glass and not both?



Ralph

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I mount my glass behind the doors in a frame of 1/8th by 1/2 inch angle that
is welded to the back of the doors on the two sides and the bottom.  The
glass is held tight by fireplace gasket material, the gray cloth stuff.  The
glass just slides into the frame behind the doors and his held snug by the
gasket fabric.  Works great,  I have built around 3 dozen fire door sets
this way with never a problem.

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Subject: Re: [TheForge] glass doors


> Wayne Ackman wrote:
>> I am finishing a set of fireplace doors,  I have the glass from the
>> cutters and it sets in with about 1/4" space around all sides, a bit more
>> than I wanted but....  I am wondering about the best way to fix the glass
>> in the frame.  I could set straps across the corners and screw them on.
>> Would allow the glass to be replaced if necessary,  but would detract
>> from the design.  Or I could caulk it in, which would help with the space
>> between the glass and the frame,  but I don't know what the heat would do
>> to that.  Nothing good, that I can imagine.  I am not coming up with an
>> idea that I like so was wondering if you all might...
>>
>> Wayne
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> Don't know if it helps, but stained glass pieces installed in lead
> channels are locked in place with plaster of Paris. Might be a solution
> for your application. High temp silicones sounds like a good idea, but
> they are so PERMANENT. Better have every thing in place... the first time.
> Seems as if the largest problem would be the different expansion ratios of
> glass and metal. Some means of allowing for expansion would seem like a
> good idea...
> Paul Sperbeck
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