[TheForge] tools

[Ralph Sproul]

	Point well taken Pete.  I was more making comment on Frosty's tong
observation - and chiming in with another cool altered welded tool... a
person starting off (which the post is about) - well, that didn't fit in to
good.  Sorry for going out of line ..........now go take those handles off
the nippers you just tried for cutting rivets.  :-)

Ralph (who being the king of tangents - is rarely on topic)

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of Peter Fels And
Phoebe Palmer
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 10:04 PM
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Subject: Re: [TheForge] tools


Now were assuming he has a welder or can forge weld already?
Hey, he just made his first cold chisel out of a coil spring if
he's advanced while we yammer....grin....PF

Ralph Sproul wrote:
> Frosty, another great tool is a set of nippers/front cutters with handles
> welded to them for cutting off rivets.
>
> Ralph
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jerry Frost
> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 12:56 AM
> To: Sponsored by ABANA
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] tools
>
> Didn't I say I didn't think I needed to describe
> drilling a hole, nuts and bolts, etc.? How are the new
> guys going to figure these things out themselves if we
> give them ALL the answers?
>
> Besides getting things hot and hitting them with
> hammers is the whole point. <grin>
>
> Okay, if we're not insisting on "purist" BS, I got a
> pair of tongs at an estate sale some years back that're
> even easier. Somebody welded some 1/2" rod to the
> handles of a pair of slip joint plliers. They work
> pretty well too.
>
> Frosty
> -------------------------------
> If it ain't forged
> it ain't real.
> Wrought iron is.
> The FrostWorks
>
> Meadow Lakes, AK.
>
> http://www.artmetalradio.com/
>
> From: "Bruce Freeman" <FREEMAB at pt.fdah.com>
>
>
>>Frosty,
>>Good description of twist tongs.  But they can get
>>even simpler than
>>that if we don't insist on blacksmith purism.
>>
>>Start with stock that's at least half-inch, and
>>perhaps 3/4" wide.
>>Instead of punching a hole (difficult for a beginner
>>without
>>instruction), drill a 1/4" (or less) hole for the
>>pivot.  Then use a
>>grade 5 or better bolt or screw for the pivot,
>>instead of a rivet, and
>>either use two nuts jammed together instead of
>>heading over a rivet.
>>The key here is to use a tough bolt (grade 5 or
>>better) of a fairly
>>small diameter (1/4" maximum, preferably less, like
>>#10), which enables
>>use of a smaller pivot.
>>
>>If the stock is soft enough, the twist can even be
>>done cold.  (Use a
>>solid vise and a large monkey wrench, separated by
>>about twice the stock
>>width.)
>>
>>Is it elegant?  No.  But for a first pair of tongs it
>>will serve.
>>Get's your hands further away from the heat so you
>>can make a better
>>pair on your second try.
>>
>>Bruce
>>NJ
>>
>
>
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