[TheForge] Finding Lye etc. (OT)

[Bruce Freeman]

Looks like Fenner Chemical is a good source.  Thanks.

Funny thing - I couldn't log into it from my company's internet.  It was flagged as "drug paraphrenalia"-related.  I wouldn't be surprized if that were because Fenner specifically requires a buyer to certify that he is NOT using the chemicals for drug manufacture.

I can't help feeling we're really starting to lose our freedoms under this Bush administration.  The sad part is that our representatives in Congress react more strongly when the office of one of their own being raided by the FBI than they do to all the infringements on the freedoms of us citizens * wiretapping, phone records, international bank transactions, etc.   I don't actually oppose the use of any of these investigative tools.  What scares me shitless is that it is all being done without court oversight.  It's too much like the typical scenario in the rise of a dictator.  The Germans didn't appreciate what was happening when Hitler took power.  I hope it never happens here.

Bruce
NJ

>>> cpworsley at cox.net 7/5/2006 10:12:11 AM >>>
Bruce,
www.fennerchemical.com  in Saginaw Mich. sells lye in bulk to soap makers.  
There are sellers on ebay as well, but going to the source is best.
My understanding is that it was the use of lye in meth labs that drove 
it off the general market.

Chris
AZ

Bruce Freeman wrote:

>Yeah, but what IS it?  Some mix of acids, I'd guess, as carbonate
>precipitation is the usual problem.  But you could do as well just
>buying the acids as such.
>
>Recap:
>Sulfuric acid (very dangerous) is available for car batteries.  Avoid
>using the stuff FROM car batteries, as it is full of toxic lead.
>Sodium bisulfate (MUCH less dangerous) is available at pool supply
>stores to lower water pH.  It's white crystals, easy to store and use.
>Phosphoric acid (moderately dangerous, and which allegedly leaves a
>protective layer on steel) is available at tile supply places (& Home
>Depot) for etching masonry before applying new mortar or tile.
>Muriatic acid (= hydrocloric acid; moderately dangerous; very dangerous
>to inhale vapors) is available in all hardware and paint stores.
>
>Now if anyone knows a retail source for lye (sodium hydroxide), please
>let me know.  Red Devil apparently stopped selling the stuff.  For
>general purposes, Crystal Draino will work, but not for soap-making.
>
>Bruce
>NJ
>  
>



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