[TheForge] Gas Forge Plans - a question

Chris Kilpatrick crimsonkil at lycos.com
Wed Jan 4 21:43:21 EST 2006 

It actually tends to spall; little chucks come frisbeeing out of the fire.

-Chris K.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alix Peshette" <apeshet at sbcglobal.net>
To: "'Sponsored by ABANA'" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: RE: [TheForge] Gas Forge Plans - a question
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 17:41:41 -0800

> 
> I thought that regular red house brick had a propensity to explode when
> subjected to great heat!
> 
> -Alix
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Grover Richardson
> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 7:47 AM
> To: 'Sponsored by ABANA'
> Subject: RE: [TheForge] Gas Forge Plans - a question
> 
> 
> Yes, I understand this concept.  I use regular Home Depot red house
> brick on my forge.  Easier to find, and as you said cheap.  They break
> about as often as the fire brick that I have used (mine break in the
> trailer during transportation between sites), and are easier to find<G>.
> However, there are those out there that wish to only build the best and
> most impressive (not name calling or throwing mud, just stating the
> obvious to continue this thought in a lucid manner<G>).  For them, (and
> the professionals who may wish to minimize mess and fuss, why buy 10
> brick, go to the store 3 times, and waste time putting them back in
> place) the "correct" fire brick is the only one<G>.
> 
> All the Best
> 
> > *>-----Original Message-----
> > *>From: theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> > *>[mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Freeman
> > *>Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 10:30 AM
> > *>To: theforge at mailman.qth.net
> > *>Subject: RE: [TheForge] Gas Forge Plans - a question
> > *>
> > *>
> > *>It's true that the standard firebricks won't really stand up 
> > *>to forge temperatures for long.  But they're dirt cheap.  If 
> > *>they swell or crack, replace them.  It isn't really a big 
> > *>deal. Bruce *>NJ
> > *>
> > *>>>> grover.richardson at gtri.gatech.edu 1/3/2006 2:24:49 PM >>>
> > *>Many of the "fire brick" that I see around are only designed 
> > *>for fireplace usage.  "Fire brick" is like saying chocolate 
> > *>or wrought iron<G>.  Yes.  Be aware of what product you are 
> > *>purchasing.  Ask the sales company for information.
> > *>
> > *>Good quick info is from mcmaster.com  Do a search on "fire 
> > *>brick."  It will turn up refractory firebricks and turn up a 
> > *>page on the right hand side of the screen.  Scroll down.  
> > *>Good descriptions.  Also cement.
> > *>
> > *>>*>-----Original Message-----
> > *>>*>From: theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> > *>>*>[mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of *>Larry Zoeller
> > *>>*>Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 1:58 PM
> > *>>*>To: Sponsored by ABANA
> > *>>*>Subject: RE: [TheForge] Gas Forge Plans - a question
> > *>>*>
> > *>>*>
> > *>>*>Bruce,
> > *>>*>I will have to disagree about what you are calling a Heavy 
> > *>>*>Duty firebrick. *>>*>The place that I purchase my firebricks 
> > from have lots of *>>*>different kinds of firebricks that they 
> > sell. They are rated *>>*>by the composition of the brick ( 
> > percentage of Alumina ) *>>*>and temperature rating.  The cheap 
> > common firebricks are *>>*>rated for only 900 to 1500 degrees, 
> > depending on where you *>>*>purchase them from.  The firebricks 
> > that I recommended are *>>*>called Heavy Duty 42% Alumina 
> > composition and rated for 3000 *>>*>degrees.  I am sure that some 
> > place call there firebricks *>>*>heavy duty, but the important 
> > thing is brick composition and *>>*>temperature rating.
> > *>>*>
> > *>>*>Thanks,
> > *>>*>Larry Zoeller
> > *>>*>4312 Lahnna Dr.
> > *>>*>Louisville, KY 40216
> > *>>*>zman59 at earthlink.net *>>*>http://www.geocities.com/zoellerforge/ *>>*>
> > *>>*>
> > *>>*>> [Original Message]
> > *>>*>> From: Bruce Freeman <FREEMAB at pt.fdah.com>
> > *>>*>> To: <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> > *>>*>> Date: 1/3/2006 9:18:09 AM
> > *>>*>> Subject: RE: [TheForge] Gas Forge Plans - a question
> > *>>*>>
> > *>>*>> Alix,
> > *>>*>> If I may field that question from my own experience:
> > *>>*>> "heavy duty" firebrick is the ordinary stuff you can pick 
> > *>>*>up for <$1 *>>*>> per
> > *>>*>brick at any masonry supply yard.  *>>*>> However, I suggest 
> > you look into getting the light *>weight firebrick
> > *>>*>instead.  It's a lot more expensive and a lot less durable, 
> > *>>*>but provides much better insulation.  *>>*>> Don't delay 
> > building your forge on that account, however.  *>>*>Go with the
> > *>>*>cheap and available...
> > *>>*>> Bruce
> > *>>*>> NJ
> > *>>*>>
> > *>>*>> >>> apeshet at sbcglobal.net 12/29/2005 1:15:42 PM >>>
> > *>>*>> Hi Larry,
> > *>>*>> Many thanks for the wonderfully simple gas forge plans.  I 
> > *>>*>feel like *>>*>> this is something I can tackle on my own.  
> > I've started *>>*>searching for *>>*>> the components, like the 
> > durablanket and fire brick.  A *>>*>question:  You *>>*>> 
> > specified heavy duty fire brick.  Is that it's name or just a 
> > *>>*>> description?  Do you know the temperature range for *>that 
> > level of *>>*>> brick?
> > *>>*>>
> > *>>*>> Here's a website where I am looking for fire brick info: 
> > *>>*>> http://www.armilcfs.com/pages/firebrick.htm *>>*>>
> > *>>*>> Thanks,
> > *>>*>> Alix in Sacramento
> > *>>*>>
> > *>>*>> -----Original Message-----
> > *>>*>> From: theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net *>>*>> 
> > [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of *>>*>Larry 
> > Zoeller
> > *>>*>> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 6:36 PM
> > *>>*>> To: theforge
> > *>>*>> Subject: [TheForge] Gas Forge Plans
> > *>>*>>
> > *>>*>>
> > *>>*>>
> > *>>*>> To All,
> > *>>*>> I just posted some online plans to build an atmospheric 
> > *>>*>gas forge,that *>>*>> it is a really easy to build forge.  I 
> > would really *>>*>appreciate it if *>>*>> you could look at the 
> > plans and tell me what you think. *> I would *>>*>> welcome any 
> > feedback about them.  The URL is *>>*>> 
> > http://www.geocities.com/zoellerforge/simplegasforge.html *>>*>>
> > *>>*>> Thanks in advance,
> > *>>*>> Larry Zoeller
> > *>>*>> 4312 Lahnna Dr.
> > *>>*>> Louisville, KY 40216
> > *>>*>> zman59 at earthlink.net *>>*>> 
> > http://www.geocities.com/zoellerforge/ *>>*>>
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