[TheForge] Gas Forge Plans - a question

Grover Richardson grover.richardson at gtri.gatech.edu
Wed Jan 4 10:47:12 EST 2006 

Yes, I understand this concept.  I use regular Home Depot red house brick on
my forge.  Easier to find, and as you said cheap.  They break about as often
as the fire brick that I have used (mine break in the trailer during
transportation between sites), and are easier to find<G>.  However, there
are those out there that wish to only build the best and most impressive
(not name calling or throwing mud, just stating the obvious to continue this
thought in a lucid manner<G>).  For them, (and the professionals who may
wish to minimize mess and fuss, why buy 10 brick, go to the store 3 times,
and waste time putting them back in place) the "correct" fire brick is the
only one<G>.

All the Best

>*>-----Original Message-----
>*>From: theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net 
>*>[mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Freeman
>*>Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 10:30 AM
>*>To: theforge at mailman.qth.net
>*>Subject: RE: [TheForge] Gas Forge Plans - a question
>*>
>*>
>*>It's true that the standard firebricks won't really stand up 
>*>to forge temperatures for long.  But they're dirt cheap.  If 
>*>they swell or crack, replace them.  It isn't really a big 
>*>deal. Bruce 
>*>NJ
>*>
>*>>>> grover.richardson at gtri.gatech.edu 1/3/2006 2:24:49 PM >>>
>*>Many of the "fire brick" that I see around are only designed 
>*>for fireplace usage.  "Fire brick" is like saying chocolate 
>*>or wrought iron<G>.  Yes.  Be aware of what product you are 
>*>purchasing.  Ask the sales company for information.
>*>
>*>Good quick info is from mcmaster.com  Do a search on "fire 
>*>brick."  It will turn up refractory firebricks and turn up a 
>*>page on the right hand side of the screen.  Scroll down.  
>*>Good descriptions.  Also cement.
>*>
>*>>*>-----Original Message-----
>*>>*>From: theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net
>*>>*>[mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of 
>*>Larry Zoeller
>*>>*>Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 1:58 PM
>*>>*>To: Sponsored by ABANA
>*>>*>Subject: RE: [TheForge] Gas Forge Plans - a question
>*>>*>
>*>>*>
>*>>*>Bruce,
>*>>*>I will have to disagree about what you are calling a Heavy 
>*>>*>Duty firebrick. 
>*>>*>The place that I purchase my firebricks from have lots of 
>*>>*>different kinds of firebricks that they sell. They are rated 
>*>>*>by the composition of the brick ( percentage of Alumina ) 
>*>>*>and temperature rating.  The cheap common firebricks are 
>*>>*>rated for only 900 to 1500 degrees, depending on where you 
>*>>*>purchase them from.  The firebricks that I recommended are 
>*>>*>called Heavy Duty 42% Alumina composition and rated for 3000 
>*>>*>degrees.  I am sure that some place call there firebricks 
>*>>*>heavy duty, but the important thing is brick composition and 
>*>>*>temperature rating.
>*>>*>
>*>>*>Thanks,
>*>>*>Larry Zoeller
>*>>*>4312 Lahnna Dr.
>*>>*>Louisville, KY 40216
>*>>*>zman59 at earthlink.net 
>*>>*>http://www.geocities.com/zoellerforge/ 
>*>>*>
>*>>*>
>*>>*>> [Original Message]
>*>>*>> From: Bruce Freeman <FREEMAB at pt.fdah.com>
>*>>*>> To: <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
>*>>*>> Date: 1/3/2006 9:18:09 AM
>*>>*>> Subject: RE: [TheForge] Gas Forge Plans - a question
>*>>*>>
>*>>*>> Alix,
>*>>*>> If I may field that question from my own experience:
>*>>*>> "heavy duty" firebrick is the ordinary stuff you can pick 
>*>>*>up for <$1 
>*>>*>> per
>*>>*>brick at any masonry supply yard.  
>*>>*>> However, I suggest you look into getting the light 
>*>weight firebrick
>*>>*>instead.  It's a lot more expensive and a lot less durable, 
>*>>*>but provides much better insulation.  
>*>>*>> Don't delay building your forge on that account, however.  
>*>>*>Go with the
>*>>*>cheap and available...
>*>>*>> Bruce
>*>>*>> NJ
>*>>*>>
>*>>*>> >>> apeshet at sbcglobal.net 12/29/2005 1:15:42 PM >>>
>*>>*>> Hi Larry,
>*>>*>> Many thanks for the wonderfully simple gas forge plans.  I 
>*>>*>feel like 
>*>>*>> this is something I can tackle on my own.  I've started 
>*>>*>searching for 
>*>>*>> the components, like the durablanket and fire brick.  A 
>*>>*>question:  You 
>*>>*>> specified heavy duty fire brick.  Is that it's name or just a 
>*>>*>> description?  Do you know the temperature range for 
>*>that level of 
>*>>*>> brick?
>*>>*>>
>*>>*>> Here's a website where I am looking for fire brick info: 
>*>>*>> http://www.armilcfs.com/pages/firebrick.htm 
>*>>*>>
>*>>*>> Thanks,
>*>>*>> Alix in Sacramento
>*>>*>>
>*>>*>> -----Original Message-----
>*>>*>> From: theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net 
>*>>*>> [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of 
>*>>*>Larry Zoeller
>*>>*>> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 6:36 PM
>*>>*>> To: theforge
>*>>*>> Subject: [TheForge] Gas Forge Plans
>*>>*>>
>*>>*>>
>*>>*>>
>*>>*>> To All,
>*>>*>> I just posted some online plans to build an atmospheric 
>*>>*>gas forge,that 
>*>>*>> it is a really easy to build forge.  I would really 
>*>>*>appreciate it if 
>*>>*>> you could look at the plans and tell me what you think. 
>*> I would 
>*>>*>> welcome any feedback about them.  The URL is 
>*>>*>> http://www.geocities.com/zoellerforge/simplegasforge.html 
>*>>*>>
>*>>*>> Thanks in advance,
>*>>*>> Larry Zoeller
>*>>*>> 4312 Lahnna Dr.
>*>>*>> Louisville, KY 40216
>*>>*>> zman59 at earthlink.net 
>*>>*>> http://www.geocities.com/zoellerforge/ 
>*>>*>>
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