[TheForge] Re: Ralph, Mike and their toys (Was: OT Threads ?)

Jerry Frost frosty at customcpu.com
Thu Feb 16 17:04:25 EST 2006


Say good night Gracie.
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it ain't real.
Wrought iron is.
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Grover Richardson" <grover.richardson at gtri.gatech.edu>
To: "'Sponsored by ABANA'" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 12:17 PM
Subject: RE: [TheForge] Re: Ralph, Mike and their toys (Was: OT Threads ?)


> Hmm.  Re-reading the message.  I do admit that I should have been much
> politer and said "the ladies on the list."  
> 
> Bad Grover.  No milk bone for you tonight.
> 
> 
> 
>>*>-----Original Message-----
>>*>From: theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net 
>>*>[mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of 
>>*>Grover Richardson
>>*>Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 4:16 PM
>>*>To: 'Sponsored by ABANA'
>>*>Subject: RE: [TheForge] Re: Ralph, Mike and their toys (Was: 
>>*>OT Threads ?)
>>*>
>>*>
>>*>Why not put them on the forge and hammer.  I can watch a 
>>*>woman work allll day long.
>>*>
>>*>Yes, for the females on the list, YES, I do say that in 
>>*>front of my wife. And yes, she always has a snappy come 
>>*>back<G>.  We like to work the crowd. I'll say something 
>>*>chauvinistic, and she gets to do the snappy come back<G>. 
>>*>People will start to back away just waiting for one of us to 
>>*>slug each other.  We just smile<G>.
>>*>
>>*>>*>-----Original Message-----
>>*>>*>From: theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net
>>*>>*>[mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of 
>>*>Justin Fellenz
>>*>>*>Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 3:56 PM
>>*>>*>To: Sponsored by ABANA
>>*>>*>Subject: Re: [TheForge] Re: Ralph, Mike and their toys (Was: 
>>*>>*>OT Threads ?)
>>*>>*>
>>*>>*>
>>*>>*>If we're talkinig about governors through the centuries, why 
>>*>>*>not take the roman approach and use a few pretty girls in 
>>*>>*>skimpy costumes, captured (dramatically) after some battle 
>>*>>*>or other? They could take turns keeping the rpm's constant 
>>*>>*>and fanning the smith with palm fronds.
>>*>>*>   
>>*>>*>  Just a thought.
>>*>>*>   
>>*>>*>  JRF
>>*>>*>
>>*>>*>Jerry Frost <frosty at customcpu.com> wrote:
>>*>>*>  I didn't get the electronic speed control either other 
>>*>>*>than it counts the 
>>*>>*>RPM and keeps it uniform. A speedOstat so to speak. 
>>*>>*>
>>*>>*>Okay, so what's the big deal about a speed control? There've 
>>*>>*>been so many 
>>*>>*>different kinds over the centuries I'd think it's just a 
>>*>>*>matter of picking 
>>*>>*>one and adapting it.
>>*>>*>
>>*>>*>For instance the wind flappy gizmo governor would be a piece 
>>*>>*>of cake to make 
>>*>>*>and adjust. Pick or make and attach a fan, blower, bicycle 
>>*>>*>wheel with 
>>*>>*>playing cards in the spokes. Attach a vane in the output 
>>*>>*>airstream with a 
>>*>>*>control arm to the throttle and a return spring opposing it. 
>>*>>*>The higher the 
>>*>>*>RPM the more force backing out on the throttle, the lower 
>>*>>*>the RPM the more 
>>*>>*>the return spring turns it up.
>>*>>*>
>>*>>*>If you wanted to get creative and perhaps a little artistic 
>>*>>*>about it you 
>>*>>*>could set the governor up with a float in a section of clear 
>>*>>*>plastic pipe. 
>>*>>*>Attach the pipe to the water pump and let the head pressure 
>>*>>*>from the pump 
>>*>>*>determine the height of the boyancy actuated throttle 
>>*>>*>position system.
>>*>>*>
>>*>>*>You could set the same thing up using the oil pump but it 
>>*>>*>probably wouldn't 
>>*>>*>be as scenic.
>>*>>*>
>>*>>*>Okay, this should be simple and even maybe practical. Use a 
>>*>>*>vacuum actuated 
>>*>>*>diaphram, or even a pneumatic cylinder.
>>*>>*>
>>*>>*>Basically just pick the RPM sensitive device and build in 
>>*>plenty of 
>>*>>*>adjustment till you get it tweeked into tune.
>>*>>*>
>>*>>*>Frosty
>>*>>*>-------------------------------
>>*>>*>If it ain't forged
>>*>>*>it ain't real.
>>*>>*>Wrought iron is.
>>*>>*>The FrostWorks
>>*>>*>
>>*>>*>Meadow Lakes, AK.
>>*>>*>
>>*>>*>http://www.artmetalradio.com/
>>*>>*>
>>*>>*>From: "Ralph Sproul" 
>>*>>*>
>>*>>*>
>>*>>*>
>>*>>*>>
>>*>>*>> .........Aaaahh, I dunno.......if Mike thought he could 
>>*>use an old
>>*>>*>> computer
>>*>>*>> to trigger a mouse in a squirell cage - to engage the 
>>*>>*>throttle to said
>>*>>*>> engine, for pouring the coal to it - to make that A&O 
>>*>>*>run.........I've got
>>*>>*>> the feeling he'd probably try it. (but that's just a wild 
>>*>>*>> guess).
>>*>>*>> :-)
>>*>>*>>
>>*>>*>> I also couldn't understand the electronics Grover 
>>*>>*>mentioned - it went 
>>*>>*>> WAY over my head. I'm low tech for sure.
>>*>>*>>
>>*>>*>> Ralph
>>*>>*>>
>>*>>*>
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