[TheForge] OT Threads ?

[Darrell]

I don't think you should take the land from anyone either. But if they
choose to stay there, they should be on their own.

Darrell

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From: "Dave Mudge" <dave at magichammer.net>
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> BESIDES ALL OF THAT,,, if you are talking about New Orleans, it wasn't the
> hurricane (directly) flooded the city. It was the failure of the levees,
> which by the way were built by the good ole USA Corps of Engineers. The
area
> of "Lakeview" mostly white upper middle class and rich folks was flooded
> just as much as the lower 9th ward that was 99 percent black lower class
> (financially) However in the lower 9th ward, there was 75 percent owner
> occupied housing. I wonder how many people in Lakeview actually own their
> homes? You can't take peoples land away from them because the levee broke.
>
> If you are talking about the folks along the Mississippi Gulf Coast, they
> were hit by a 27 / 30 foot tidal wave called a "storm surge" who's
effects
> were felt as much as 10 miles inland and 4 or more hours of 160 mile per
> hour wind. Who here has a house or shop that would withstand that?
>
> My friend Joe Strain had a shop along the Pearl River (compares to the
Erie
> Canal, should everyone move away from the Erie Canal?) Not only did the
> storm surge wipe out his shop, but a steel hull tug boat landed on top of
> the shop and crushed whatever the storm surge didn't take.
>
> dave mudge
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> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 9:27 AM
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>
> Walter Mullett wrote:
> > About time....
> >
> > This is not a personal rights issue.  Living in high  risk areas doesn't
> > just affect the person living there.  It also puts the rescuer's lives
at
> > risk and it costs all of the rest of us.
>
> NOt sure I can agree.  The properties in question are, presumably,
> owned by individuals.  It is their right to live there if they so
> choose.  I see no basis for stealing the lands.
>
> On the other side of that coin, I see no basis for helping them,
> either
> financially or otherwise, if they choose to stay in a place known to be
> dangerous.  If your house blows away and you can finance rebuilding,
> then you should be able to.  If you cannot finance it (insurance or
> otherwise) and it's destroyed, tough rocks.  If you end up on the roof
> with rising waters, tough rocks.  But of course we all know it won't
> work that way.  When the dung hits the fan, the whiners will be
> demanding aid and the rescuers, being the sorts of souls they tend to
> be, will go and endanger themselves.  Perhaps those who have been warned
> should be made civilly liable for all costs and losses incurred in their
> rescue.  I bet that would shake something loose.  But that will never
> happen because it will be painted as "inhumane".  Nonsense.
> >
> > It's like smoking.  When you smoke around another person, you risk their
> > life and your smoking costs all of us money.
>
> Most of the things we do can be said to endanger others.  Driving
> endangers others.  Preparing food, drinking, skiing, biking... you get
> the picture, eh?  Differentiating based on "necessity" doesn't help for
> driving.  It's not.  We only lie to ourselves that it is.
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