[TheForge] Induction Forge?

Tue Aug 22 19:01:05 EDT 2006

Cant you just rent a gas drive welder or a gas generator for the day?
Around here thats 30 bucks or so for one that will put out 50 amps of 
220.

ries

On Aug 22, 2006, at 3:32 PM, Steve Kayne wrote:

> Unfortunately Barberville does not have power to operate the Induction 
> Forge.  We are as upset as anyone as we were very interested in 
> demonstrating it formerly and informerly.  I doubt that it will happen 
> at Barberville even in the future as the electrical situation just is 
> not there.
>
> We hope to be able to demonstrate it in Texas, at Grapevine.  Our 
> experience is that they have the necessary 220 single phase and are 
> very willing to hook us up.
>
> There is the possibility that we may be able to operate it at Madison, 
> Ga.
>
> We very much wanted to demo it and FABA wanted us to do it.  It is 
> just not in the cards.    A few FABA people have arrived at our shop 
> and seen it in operation and that's led to the groundswell to show it 
> Barberville.  We just don't get what we want every time.  Thats life.
>
> Wish you could see it.  It's magic.  Jock Dempsey should have photos 
> from our meeting and my two hour demo up somewhere - Anvilfire or our 
> site in the next few days.
>
> Steve Kayne
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Childers" <munlaw2 at hcsmail.com>
> To: "'Sponsored by ABANA'" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 7:24 AM
> Subject: RE: [TheForge] Induction Forge?
>
>
> Steve Kane, are you going to bring an induction forge to the 
> conference at
> Barberville, Florida October 20-22?
>
> Thanx, Ron Childers
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Steve Kayne
> Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 10:53 PM
> To: Sponsored by ABANA
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Induction Forge?
>
> We have been using the induction forge in our shop for a few months 
> now and
> it is magic.   We forgeweld with it and it is an experience to see the
> process taking place before your eyes and having total control over it.
> Teaching someone to forge weld using the I. F. is light years ahead of 
> using
>
> a coal or gas forge.  They can see the process taking place and you can
> explain what is going on and there is no thing between you preventing 
> you
> from seeing everything that is going on.  The transition of the steel 
> being
> heated from magnetic to non magnetic is very dramatic and the I. F.
> indicates the transition very clearly.  We heat everything from 1/4" 
> round
> to 1/4 x 2 1/2 so far in the I. F.   It is very quick.  30 seconds is 
> a long
>
> time.  A lot happens in 5 or 8 seconds.   The heat is very localized 
> and
> this permits certain forging operations to be done much easier than 
> they
> have ever been done in the past, since the steel reacts in the 
> restricted
> heated area and not in the unheated area, the area is heated so 
> quickly that
>
> there is very little travel beyond the area under the coil.  We have 
> not
> fully found out the limits and possibilities of the I. F.  as our jobs 
> have
> not taken us into enough varied areas.   What its limits are will be
> determined in time, but it is a fantastic tool and we enjoy finding 
> out what
>
> it will do for us each day as we tackle that day's projects.   Like 
> any new
> tool, you have to think about it and determine if it has the 
> capabilities to
>
> do that day's work.  So far we have found few times that it was unable 
> to do
>
> the job better than and quicker than coal, gas, etc.  We solder with 
> it,  we
>
> braze with it and of course forge weld with it, or maybe it is not 
> called
> forge welding but magic.  As we test it further,  we will be happy to 
> pass
> along our findings as I know Grant will and is.   The coils are very 
> easy to
>
> make.  We use 3/16 and 1/4" copper tubing.  It is easy to form and we 
> use
> the I. F. to solder it.  It is really done very quickly and reminds 
> me, for
> some strange reason, of making dies for the fly press.  Perhaps 
> because like
>
> the fly press, without its dies or coils, it is useless and its 
> limitations
> are limited by what we dream up in the way of coils.   Sorry we are so 
> long
> winded, but as you can tell, we are very much enamered with I. F.    
> Where
> has it been all our lives.  It saved us a great deal of time and made 
> our
> task easier so far and certainly a lot more fun.
>
> Steve Kayne
>
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