[TheForge] Induction Forge?

[Peter Fels And Phoebe Palmer]

Reis is right of course..i was just pipe dreaming again.
In fact, i have a sort of horror of buying any welding machine 
with modern electronics in it. Little teeny, fragile chips and 
big surging and sputtering electro-magnetic fields...what a 
combination!
How are we gonna get replacement chips for them when they are 20 
years old?
The main PC card for my Lincoln Idealarc 250/250 is no longer 
available. It's my newest welding machine.The chips for many 
vehicles are no longer available. Look under the hood of so many 
machines and all there is to be seen is electronics and plastic.
Looks like the prelude to a disaster.
Another one.
Course when it happens, we'll be well positioned.
Only a few chips in my anvil.....Pete F

Jerry Frost wrote:
> Egglayingwoolmilkpig? I don't even want a picture! <grin> Great term.
> 
> We're on the same page regarding doitall machines. Something that does 
> everything does nothing well.
> 
> While I don't know much about electricity I do understand there are 
> different types in ways I don't grasp. What I do know is I already have 
> a Lincoln Ranger 9, multi process welder that will indeed do most 
> welding processes but requires modules or additional pieces to do some.
> 
> I was just thinking an electricity massaging unit might be an alternative.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Frosty
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> From: "Ries Niemi" <rniemi at fidalgo.net>
> 
> 
>> I am not a big fan of "all in one" designs for anything- the combo 
>> brake/shear/rolls are garbage, the lathe/milling machines are crap, 
>> the shopsmith is an amusing idea that does nothing well-
>> But the closest I come is my inverter welder- it will run a mig wire 
>> feeder head, tig weld, or stick weld, all better than the older, 
>> standalone machines I also have.
>>
>> But, and its a big but- even though it all looks alike- there are 
>> different types of electricity- and what you need for welding- my tig 
>> inverter is usually putting out 170 amps at 25 volts or so- is 
>> drastically different than what you would need for a induction forge. 
>> Cant remember Grants explanation of the output, but its night and day 
>> from what a tig welder puts out.
>> It would be kinda like saying my lawnmower and my Cat D9 are both 
>> powered by internal combustion engines, so why not combine the 
>> functions of the two?
>> Yes, it could probably be done- and it would do each job worse, cost 
>> more, and have inherent design flaws that are just about insurmountable.
>>
>> The germans have a word for this- they would call it an 
>> "egglayingwoolmilkpig"-  something that tries to do everything.
>>
>> I am all for buying an inverter power supply- but so far, the only 
>> ones that both weld and plasma cut are funky no name chinese imports- 
>> and they dont have either Grant Sarver, or Kaynes standing behind them.
>> I will buy a no name chinese induction forge from Grant, but not from 
>> some guy on ebay who cant tell an oscilloscope from a stethescope.
>>
>> My welders are either red or blue. They work, parts are available, 
>> most are made in the USA- (all millers, most lincolns).
>>
>> Experiments are fine for hor d'ourves- not for welders.
>>
>> Ries
>>
>>
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