[TheForge] Pwr hmr anvil

[Darrell]

Jerry,
Would they sell to a business? If not your business, could you find a 
business to act as a go between?

Darrell

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jerry Frost" <frosty at customcpu.com>
To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [TheForge] Pwr hmr anvil


> We're in agreement Walt.
>
> If I could get the 8 7/8" dia. RR axels I could put together 2,000lbs 
> worth of anvil easily. They'd only need a few stitch beads to assure the 
> billet couldn't shift. They certainly wouldn't need to be welded solid. 
> This was exactly what I originally intended to do.
>
> I don't have them available though and welding on a pile of 
> indiscriminately shaped scrap till it weighs a ton not only won't look 
> good it won't work.
>
> If I can get them, (nothing's impossible) four, 30" lengths will weigh 
> around 2,076lbs. welded to a heavy base and cap a "close to even" load 
> would be okay. I'm only talking about a 100 lb+ tup and RR axels are med C 
> or even 4140 in some cases, so close to even wouldn't deflect one enough 
> to cause a shear failure in my lifetime, if ever.
>
> Seven lengths welded in a hexagonal bundle, weighs in at around 3,637lbs. 
> not counting caps, base, etc. It'd be about perfect for a 300 lb hammer. 
> Dave Mudge built a hammer this way after quite a bit of research into 
> built up anvils.
>
> If on the other hand we're trying to get 2,000lbs from say RR rail the end 
> loading would indeed hit ONE rail harder than all the others every single 
> blow, even through say 2" of cap plate and a die. 1080 steel under those 
> conditions will fail far sooner than I want to repair it.
>
> This is exactly why I was so bummed to discover the recycling center would 
> no longer sell to the public, all I need is four, 30" lengths of the 8 
> 7/8" RR axel to make my weight. It'd be SO easy.
>
> Frosty
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> it ain't real.
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>
> From: <wmullett at bright.net>
>
>
>>I can't believe that it is important to join your axels vertically. 
>>Mostly what you want with an anvil is mass and you want to engage that 
>>mass.  With a thick enough top & bottom plate, all of the axels should 
>>load up close to being uniform so your only concern is what we call 
>>slenderness ratio with building columns.  You don't want the individual 
>>columns to buckle under load.  I doubt they would ever do that but if you 
>>were concerned, you could collar the bundle of axels at a couple of 
>>points.
>>
>> Walt
>>
>
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