[TheForge] It's in the New York Times, so it must be true...

gblacksmith gblacksmith at alamedanet.net
Sat May 28 21:11:16 EDT 2005


Folks:  Good posting on knives.......give them an inch, and they think they 
are rulers.   The comment on "We do our Part" is from the NRA, but not the 
one we think.  The tagline was used by the National Recovery Act 
administrators, a Roosevelt New Deal Program.

Grant
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From: "Phlip" <phlip at 99main.com>
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Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 3:59 PM
Subject: [TheForge] It's in the New York Times, so it must be true...


> Here, this ought to give you guys some entertainment.
>
> Phlip
>
>> > I can see the slogans: "Chef's knives don't kill people, chefs kill
>> > people!" "They can pry my chef's knife from my cold, dead fingers!"
>> > "When chef's knives are outlawed, only outlaws will be chefs!" and
>> > last, but not least, "The American Culinary Federation: We do our
>> > part!"
>>
>> Adamantius
>>
>> > May 27, 2005
>> > British Medical Experts Campaign for Long, Pointy Knife Control
>> > By JOHN SCHWARTZ
>> >
>> > Warning: Long, pointy knives may be hazardous to your health.
>> >
>> > The authors of an editorial in the latest issue of the British
>> > Medical Journal have called for knife reform. The editorial,
>> > "Reducing knife crime: We need to ban the sale of long, pointed
>> > kitchen knives," notes that the knives are being used to stab
>> > people as well as roasts and the odd tin of Spam.
>> >
>> > The authors of the essay - Drs. Emma Hern, Will Glazebrook and Mike
>> > Beckett of the West Middlesex University Hospital in London -
>> > called for laws requiring knife manufacturers to redesign their
>> > wares with rounded, blunt tips.
>> >
>> > The researchers noted that the rate of violent crime in Britain
>> > rose nearly 18 percent from 2003 to 2004, and that in the first two
>> > weeks of 2005, 15 killings and 16 nonfatal attacks involved
>> > stabbings. In an unusual move for a scholarly work, the researchers
>> > cited a January headline from The Daily Express, a London tabloid:
>> > "Britain is in the grip of knives terror - third of murder victims
>> > are now stabbed to death." Dr. Hern said that "we came up with the
>> > idea and tossed it into the pot" to get people talking about crime
>> > reduction. "Whether it's a sensible solution to this problem or
>> > not, I'm not sure."
>> >
>> > In the United States, where people are more likely to debate gun
>> > control than knife control, partisans on both sides sounded amused.
>> > Wayne LaPierre, executive vice president of the National Rifle
>> > Association, asked, "Are they going to have everybody using plastic
>> > knives and forks and spoons in their own homes, like they do in
>> > airlines?"
>> >
>> > Peter Hamm, a spokesman for the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun
>> > Violence, which supports gun control, joked, "Can sharp stick
>> > control be far behind?" He said people in his movement were
>> > "envious" of England for having such problems. "In America, we
>> > can't even come to an agreement that guns are dangerous and we
>> > should make them safer," he said.
>> >
>> > The authors of the editorial argued that the pointed tip is a
>> > vestigial feature from less mannered ages, when people used it to
>> > spear meat. They said that they interviewed 10 chefs in England,
>> > and that "none gave a reason why the long, pointed knife was
>> > essential," though short, pointed knives were useful.
>> >
>> > An American chef, however, disagreed with the proposal. "This is
>> > yet another sign of the coming apocalypse," said Anthony Bourdain,
>> > the executive chef at Les Halles and the author of "Kitchen
>> > Confidential."
>> >
>> > A knife, he said, is a beloved tool of the trade, and not a thing
>> > to be shaped by bureaucrats. A chef's relationship with his knives
>> > develops over decades of training and work, he said, adding, "Its
>> > weight, its shape - these are all extensions of our arms, and in
>> > many ways, our personalities."
>> >
>> > He compared the editorial to efforts to ban unpasteurized cheese.
>> > "Where there is no risk," he said, "there is no pleasure."
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "S'ils n'ont pas de pain, vous fait-on dire, qu'ils  mangent de la
>> brioche!" / "If there's no bread to be had, one has to say, let them
>> eat cake!"
>>      -- attributed to an unnamed noblewoman by Jean-Jacques Rousseau,
>> "Confessions", 1782
>>
>> "Why don't they get new jobs if they're unhappy -- or go on Prozac?"
>>      -- Susan Sheybani, assistant to Bush campaign spokesman Terry
>> Holt, 07/29/04
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