[TheForge] Anvil shaving 101

Justin Fellenz sunironworks at yahoo.com
Fri May 27 07:58:32 EDT 2005 

Hmmm...thanks to both of you. Chipping v softness...I'll have to think
about it. Maybe another use for some small cheap anvil I can find, or a
piece of railroad track...testing.

JRF


--- Phil <mobjak at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I'm sorry but, I just have to chime in here.
> 
> So you have this anvil, it's a Peter Wright, or maybe
> it's a Hay Buddy or a Trenton, and maybe you got a
> deal on it, $1/pound, maybe you paid $2.50/pound, and
> you're going to use a high tensile electrode on the
> face and edges?  Why would you want to lay lown a
> relatively soft rod on something you paid so much
> money for?
> 
> Go ahead, spend a few extra dollars, and get some
> electrodes that were made for doing this.  Some folks
> like the Stoody rods.  I don't.  I don't think you get
> a super hard result, and the color match isn't that
> good.  I actually gave away some Stoody rods to
> someone on theforge.
> 
> Go get some MG710 electrodes.  You can either get your
> "friendly" local welding supplier to order them for
> you, or you can order them directly from MG.  They
> also make a TIG rod.
> 
> They recommend getting the anvil up to 350-400
> degrees.
> 
> Just my two cents though.
> 
> Phil Rosche
> Summerville, SC
> --- Chuck Robinson <robi5515 at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> 
> > Hey Justin,
> > Rebuilding the edges is a do-able project:
> > Get a $20 propane weed burner from Harbor Freight
> > and a 250 F tempil stick.
> > Put the anvil face up on some steel blocks to raise
> > the bottom about 4" off 
> > the round.
> > Preheat the anvil with the burner on the sides and
> > bottom until the tempil 
> > marks on the face change,
> > Weld up the dings with new 7018 rod and peen the
> > weld bead with light blows 
> > till you arm falls off.
> >  Then cover the anvil with an insulating layer of
> > inswool blanket or place a 
> > big card board box around the anvil and fill it with
> > vermiculite.
> > Let the anvil slow cool to ambient temperature.
> > The 7018 rod will be a little soft but it will work
> > harden and won't chip 
> > off like some hard facing rod will.
> > Never heat an anvil above about 350 F.
> > Chuck
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Justin Fellenz" <sunironworks at yahoo.com>
> > To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 5:59 PM
> > Subject: Re: [TheForge] Anvil shaving 101
> > 
> > 
> > > Grin. Maybe I could make enough to make up for
> > wrecking a perfectly
> > > good anvil....
> > >
> > > I guess I'll look for a really thrashed one. I was
> > just outside looking
> > > at it, and the face is ok but the endges are just
> > beat. I'm guessing
> > > that if I hard surfaced just those and fixed em
> > up, it would probably
> > > wreck the rest of the anvil, and I'd be back to
> > making video.
> > >
> > > Oh well, it works good for what it is.
> > >
> > > Justin.
> > > --- Dan Tull <dantull at numail.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Chuck is a spoil sport.
> > >> We want video.
> > >> I guarantee you , you can sell copies of that.
> > >> Everyone wants to know how to temper their anvils
> > ( or not).
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> > >> From: <robi5515 at bellsouth.net>
> > >> To: "Sponsored by ABANA"
> > <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> > >> Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 6:52 PM
> > >> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Anvil shaving 101
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > Hey Justin,
> > >> > I make anvils and my advice is don't screw with
> > it
> > >> > As long as it has a decent hammer rebound and
> > you can work on it
> > >> leave it
> > >> > alone.
> > >> > You don't know for sure whether it has been
> > surfaced before. If you
> > >> can
> > >> > find some one with a set of Rockwell files, the
> > optimal RC is 50 to
> > >> 55.
> > >> > If you dress the face and try to harden it you
> > might mess up the
> > >> face to
> > >> > body weld.
> > >> > Chuck
> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > >> > From: "Justin Fellenz" <sunironworks at yahoo.com>
> > >> > To: "Sponsored by ABANA"
> > <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> > >> > Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 4:11 PM
> > >> > Subject: Re: [TheForge] Anvil shaving 101
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >> Jeez, thanks guys, you're a big help. I think
> > you could get it hot
> > >> >> enough and I think you could get it quenched,
> > but tempering
> > >> accurately
> > >> >> might be tough. Anyone know what the hardness
> > should be? THoughts
> > >> on
> > >> >> tempering such a beast? Spose if I get this
> > figgered out I could
> > >> just
> > >> >> make me a new anvil...
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Hmmm...
> > >> >>
> > >> >> J
> > >> >> --- Phlip <phlip at 99main.com> wrote:
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Ene bichizh ogsen baina shuu...
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> > > Along the same lines...
> > >> >>> > >
> > >> >>> > > my spare anvil is a 275 pound peter
> > wright that's pretty flat
> > >> but
> > >> >>> > > seriously chipped up on te endges and
> > more than a little
> > >> dinged
> > >> >>> on the
> > >> >>> > > face. I was thinking of hard surfacing it
> > or at least
> > >> grinding
> > >> >>> off the
> > >> >>> > > chips to a nice rounded edge. Thoughts
> > about hard surfacing?
> > >> >>> > >
> > >> >>> > > I was also musing about whether it would
> > be possible to
> > >> >>> reharden....I
> > >> >>> > > wondered if you could build a good coal
> > fire and heat it up
> > >> by
> > >> >>> hanging
> > >> >>> > > it upside down in the fire and then
> > quench it and then
> > >> >>> temper...dunno,
> > >> >>> > > pretty heavy piece of iron and I really
> > don't have an idea
> > >> about
> > >> >>> the
> > >> >>> > > specs. Thoughts?
> > >> >>> > >
> > >> >>> > > JRF
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Dan said go for it- I agree- I wanna watch
> > ;-)
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Saint Phlip,
> > >> >>> CoD
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> "When in doubt, heat it up and hit it with a
> > hammer."
> > >> >>>  Blacksmith's credo.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>  If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a
> > duck, it is probably
> > >> not
> > >> >>> a
> > >> >>> cat.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Never a horse that cain't be rode,
> > >> >>> And never a rider who cain't be throwed....
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