[TheForge] Anvil shaving 101

Thu May 26 22:33:17 EDT 2005

Hey Dan, I know that you were very busy at Madison but Peter Happny told 
about how he tried to re-heat treat his anvil one time.  Had it supported 
with an overhead hoist to take it from the forge to the quench.  Got it up 
in the air and then the hoist jammed.  So there he is with the hot anvil 
over head trying to free up the hoist.  After a bunch of work he got it into 
his quench and didn't have near enough water. (55 gallon drum I think.) 
End result was the anvil was much softer than when he started.  Used it 
anyway -- just would reforge in the sides to raise the face several times a 
year.

I have seen very large industrial rolls heat treated by bring them out of 
the furnace on a furnace car and then hitting them with high volume water 
sprays.  You have to have an arrangement so that you can rotate the roll for 
this.  Then once you get the surface layers (in this case about 6 inches 
deep, quenched the way you want you let the heat from the core of the roll 
draw the correct temper.  Of course they have all kind of temperature 
measurement to know just where they are to control the process.  You would 
too on a  million dollar piece of steel with a weight of 300 tons.

Dave Smucker

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dan Tull" <dantull at numail.org>
To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: [TheForge] Anvil shaving 101

> Chuck is a spoil sport.
> We want video.
> I guarantee you , you can sell copies of that.
> Everyone wants to know how to temper their anvils ( or not).
>
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
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> Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 6:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Anvil shaving 101
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>> Hey Justin,
>> I make anvils and my advice is don't screw with it
>> As long as it has a decent hammer rebound and you can work on it leave it 
>> alone.
>> You don't know for sure whether it has been surfaced before. If you can 
>> find some one with a set of Rockwell files, the optimal RC is 50 to 55.
>> If you dress the face and try to harden it you might mess up the face to 
>> body weld.
>> Chuck
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Justin Fellenz" <sunironworks at yahoo.com>
>> To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 4:11 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Anvil shaving 101
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>>> Jeez, thanks guys, you're a big help. I think you could get it hot
>>> enough and I think you could get it quenched, but tempering accurately
>>> might be tough. Anyone know what the hardness should be? THoughts on
>>> tempering such a beast? Spose if I get this figgered out I could just
>>> make me a new anvil...
>>>
>>> Hmmm...
>>>
>>> J
>>> --- Phlip <phlip at 99main.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ene bichizh ogsen baina shuu...
>>>>
>>>> > > Along the same lines...
>>>> > >
>>>> > > my spare anvil is a 275 pound peter wright that's pretty flat but
>>>> > > seriously chipped up on te endges and more than a little dinged
>>>> on the
>>>> > > face. I was thinking of hard surfacing it or at least grinding
>>>> off the
>>>> > > chips to a nice rounded edge. Thoughts about hard surfacing?
>>>> > >
>>>> > > I was also musing about whether it would be possible to
>>>> reharden....I
>>>> > > wondered if you could build a good coal fire and heat it up by
>>>> hanging
>>>> > > it upside down in the fire and then quench it and then
>>>> temper...dunno,
>>>> > > pretty heavy piece of iron and I really don't have an idea about
>>>> the
>>>> > > specs. Thoughts?
>>>> > >
>>>> > > JRF
>>>>
>>>> Dan said go for it- I agree- I wanna watch ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Saint Phlip,
>>>> CoD
>>>>
>>>> "When in doubt, heat it up and hit it with a hammer."
>>>>  Blacksmith's credo.
>>>>
>>>>  If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it is probably not
>>>> a
>>>> cat.
>>>>
>>>> Never a horse that cain't be rode,
>>>> And never a rider who cain't be throwed....
>>>>
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