[TheForge] Sorry to break in with a blacksmithing question

[David E. Smucker]

I am sure that is right -- Peter's point was that students think "Machine" 
when in fact they have any easy method right in front of them when they 
already have the metal hot.  The cut I made yesterday in 1 1/2 material was 
because it was hot, and I had the power hammer.  I could have let it cool 
and cut it with the band saw or burned it with the cutting torch.  I tend to 
be like Peter's students and because of my machinist background think "band 
saw" -- because I like that nice clean cut.  Put if the end use doesn't 
require it -- hot cutting it is fine.  ( or the cutting torch.)

Dave
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Phil" <mobjak at yahoo.com>
To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: [TheForge] Sorry to break in with a blacksmithing question


> Dave:
>
> I when I worked with Peter in the late '70s and early
> '80s at Colonial Williamsburg, it never seemed to
> bother him to use the bandsaw.
>
> Phil
>
> --- "David E. Smucker" <davesmucker at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> The ghost of Francis and Peter Ross would give us
>> all hell for going to the
>> chop saw (or band saw) rather than using the hardie
>> for cutting stock up to
>> at least an inch or so.  I used a hack yesterday to
>> cut some 1 1/2 round on
>> the power hammer.  (Hot of course.)  I have seen
>> huge hacks mounted on the
>> front of fork trucks used to cut heavy heavy stock
>> under a 3000 ton press.
>> (20 inch diameter.)  For lots applications there is
>> no reason not to cut it
>> at the anvil -- hot.  My reference to Peter Ross was
>> his frustration when
>> teaching at the John C. Campbell Folk School how
>> often students would cool a
>> piece and then go cut it on the chop saw rather that
>> cut it at the anvil.
>> Most of us have grown up in the machine age and
>> think of a machine to cut
>> with when in fact we can cut many things with a
>> hardie or a hot cut.
>>
>> Dave
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: <Keporter at aol.com>
>> To: <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 6:45 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Sorry to break in with a
>> blacksmithing question
>>
>>
>> >
>> > In a message dated 6/18/2005 3:36:22 P.M. Pacific
>> Standard Time,
>> > phlip at 99main.com writes:
>> >
>> > BTW, I  hate chopsaws, and have NEVER owned one.
>> Too
>> >> noisy and  dirty.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Saint Phlip:
>> > Have you ever tried a dry cut saw, or a cold cut
>> saw? Chop-saws are as
>> > varied as any other tool. Even friction cut-off
>> saws come in many
>> > varieties. I
>> > won't put up with large friction saws anymore,
>> because they are noisy,
>> > dirty,
>> > and the 14" blades are inaccurate, but the small
>> friction saws can be
>> > very
>> > handy. Horrible Fright even sells a 6" model from
>> time to time.
>> > Mike P.
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