[TheForge] Re: TheForge Digest, Vol 17, Issue 11
Ray Clontz
rayclontz at bellsouth.net
Sun Jun 5 10:26:10 EDT 2005
"Clinker" is a good name for a blacksmiths' dog
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> 1. Suggestions needed- OT (Phlip)
> 2. Dog name (Barking Crow)
> 3. Re: Suggestions needed- OT (Rowland Smuck)
> 4. Re: forging aluminum (Dave Smucker)
> 5. Re: Suggestions needed- OT (Chris Kilpatrick)
> 6. Re: Dog name (Gladish Family)
> 7. Re: forging aluminum (Gladish Family)
> 8. Re: forging aluminum (Gladish Family)
> 9. Re: Suggestions needed- OT (gblacksmith)
> 10. RE: Suggestions needed- OT (The Wilson's)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 15:03:16 -0400
> From: "Phlip" <phlip at 99main.com>
> Subject: [TheForge] Suggestions needed- OT
> To: "SCA-Cooks" <sca-cooks at ansteorra.org>, "ArtMetal Sandbox"
> <sandbox at artmetal.com>, <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
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> Finally, after a great deal of discussion, my roommates have allowed me to
> get another dog. She's a 3 year old purebred Husky with blue eyes, no
> training (yet) but a very nice temperment. I'm very happy with everything
> about my acquisition, except for one thing- her name, Precious. That being
> the case, I intend to change it, since I can't abide having a dog whose
> name
> makes me want to upchuck every time I use it. My roommates agree ;-)
>
> Her previous name was Chinook, but I don't want something quite as common.
>
> So, I'm posting y'all, and asking your help. What shall I name my new dog?
> Please, if you suggest a long name, make sure it can be shortened to a one
> syllable use name.
>
> Saint Phlip,
> CoD
>
> "When in doubt, heat it up and hit it with a hammer."
> Blacksmith's credo.
>
> If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it is probably not a
> cat.
>
> Never a horse that cain't be rode,
> And never a rider who cain't be throwed....
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 16:56:33 -0400
> From: "Barking Crow" <mail at barkingcrow.com>
> Subject: [TheForge] Dog name
> To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> Message-ID: <000c01c5687e$b99efea0$b8e52e44 at tharpe01.fl.comcast.net>
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> What about Swage?
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 14:16:58 -0700
> From: Rowland Smuck <rsmuck at direcway.com>
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Suggestions needed- OT
> To: Sponsored by ABANA <theforge at mailman.qth.net>, SCA-Cooks
> <sca-cooks at ansteorra.org>, ArtMetal Sandbox <sandbox at artmetal.com>
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> Aleutia!!!
> Rowland of Roseburg, OR 97470
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Phlip" <phlip at 99main.com>
> To: "SCA-Cooks" <sca-cooks at ansteorra.org>; "ArtMetal Sandbox"
> <sandbox at artmetal.com>; <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 12:03 PM
> Subject: [TheForge] Suggestions needed- OT
>
>
>>
>> Finally, after a great deal of discussion, my roommates have allowed me
>> to
>> get another dog. She's a 3 year old purebred Husky with blue eyes, no
>> training (yet) but a very nice temperment. I'm very happy with everything
>> about my acquisition, except for one thing- her name, Precious. That
>> being
>> the case, I intend to change it, since I can't abide having a dog whose
>> name
>> makes me want to upchuck every time I use it. My roommates agree ;-)
>>
>> Her previous name was Chinook, but I don't want something quite as
>> common.
>>
>> So, I'm posting y'all, and asking your help. What shall I name my new
>> dog?
>> Please, if you suggest a long name, make sure it can be shortened to a
>> one
>> syllable use name.
>>
>> Saint Phlip,
>> CoD
>>
>> "When in doubt, heat it up and hit it with a hammer."
>> Blacksmith's credo.
>>
>> If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it is probably not a
>> cat.
>>
>> Never a horse that cain't be rode,
>> And never a rider who cain't be throwed....
>>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 21:19:03 +0000
> From: "Dave Smucker" <davesmucker at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] forging aluminum
> To: theforge at mailman.qth.net
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> Bruce, Not all aluminum will "crumble" in other words go "hot short" it
> is
> very dependent on the alloy. The aerospace alloys 2XXX and 7XXX do this
> big
> time but those alloys with lower alloy content do not -- 1100 -- which for
> all practical purposes is pure aluminum can be forged or rolled right up
> to
> the melting point. I say this having watched millions and millions of
> pounds of aluminum being hot rolled. I have even seen 5182 hot rolled in
> the reversing mill and go liquid at or near the center line from the
> energy
> added in rolling and still make it off the end of the hot line without
> failure. Other alloys can break up in the hot reversing mill if they get
> too hot. 5182 for the record is the stuff in the top of a aluminum can.
> 3004 is the alloy in the body.
>
> I recommend 3003 for our kind of forging. Other alloys will work too.
> The
> pine stick temperature test works well.
>
> Dave Smucker
>
>>From: "Bruce Freeman" <FREEMAB at pt.fdah.com>
>>Reply-To: Sponsored by ABANA <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
>>To: <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
>>Subject: Re: [TheForge] forging aluminum
>>Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 14:18:43 -0400
>>
>>I have a tiny bit of experience forging aluminum.
>>
>>First of all, aluminum, like most non-ferous metals, can be forged cold,
>>providing it is annealed when it begins to work-harden. It can also be
>>forged hot, in which case a separate annealing process is not necessary.
>>
>>Like the copper-based metals, aluminum conducts heat a LOT better than
>>steel, so you'll need tongs to hold it when hot - even when working a long
>>piece.
>>
>>When annealing, or when forging hot never get it above the temperature at
>>which a stick of wood will write on the shiny alumnum exactly as if it
>>were
>>a black crayon. Above this temp., it will crumble.
>>
>>Hope this helps.
>>
>>Bruce
>>NJ
>>
>> >>> gladish at cnw.com 6/3/2005 11:29:19 AM >>>
>>Hi, everybody.
>>Has any of you got experience forging aluminum, or know of a good book
>>or resource on same?
>>I want to build a decorative screen for a garden, and aluminum would be
>>the best choice for the location, but can't seem to find anything in my
>>library about forging it. Is it done cold and annealed, or do you use a
>>low heat in the forge?
>>In the dark here...
>>Thanks!
>>Andy G.
>>
>>
>>--
>>Andy Gladish, Metalwork
>>7141 Guemes Island Rd.
>>Anacortes, WA 98221
>>Element Forge www.elementfe.com
>>mailto: andy at elementfe.com
>>
>>I never saw an ugly thing in my life: for let the form of an object be
>>what
>>it may, -- light, shade, and perspective will always make it beautiful.
>>-John Constable, painter (1776-1837)
>>
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 16:20:27 -0500
> From: "Chris Kilpatrick" <crimsonkil at lycos.com>
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Suggestions needed- OT
> To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> Message-ID: <20050603212027.105CBC610F at ws7-5.us4.outblaze.com>
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> you could call her Back, Phlip.
>
> -Crimson
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Phlip <phlip at 99main.com>
> To: "SCA-Cooks" <sca-cooks at ansteorra.org>, "ArtMetal Sandbox"
> <sandbox at artmetal.com>, theforge at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [TheForge] Suggestions needed- OT
> Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 15:03:16 -0400
>
>>
>>
>> Finally, after a great deal of discussion, my roommates have allowed me
>> to
>> get another dog. She's a 3 year old purebred Husky with blue eyes, no
>> training (yet) but a very nice temperment. I'm very happy with everything
>> about my acquisition, except for one thing- her name, Precious. That
>> being
>> the case, I intend to change it, since I can't abide having a dog whose
>> name
>> makes me want to upchuck every time I use it. My roommates agree ;-)
>>
>> Her previous name was Chinook, but I don't want something quite as
>> common.
>>
>> So, I'm posting y'all, and asking your help. What shall I name my new
>> dog?
>> Please, if you suggest a long name, make sure it can be shortened to a
>> one
>> syllable use name.
>>
>> Saint Phlip,
>> CoD
>>
>> "When in doubt, heat it up and hit it with a hammer."
>> Blacksmith's credo.
>>
>> If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it is probably not a
>> cat.
>>
>> Never a horse that cain't be rode,
>> And never a rider who cain't be throwed....
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Manage membership or unsubscribe at:
>> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/theforge
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>> Login: blacksmithblacksmith at hotmail.com
>> password: anvil
>> ___________
>
>
>
> It is I who formed the blacksmith,
> who fans the flame into a fire and
> fashions a weapon fit for it's work.
>
>
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 15:04:45 -0700
> From: Gladish Family <gladish at cnw.com>
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Dog name
> To: Barking Crow <mail at barkingcrow.com>, Sponsored by ABANA
> <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> Message-ID: <42A0D3FD.3050408 at cnw.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Taxi!
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 15:06:37 -0700
> From: Gladish Family <gladish at cnw.com>
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] forging aluminum
> To: Sponsored by ABANA <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> Message-ID: <42A0D46D.1080401 at cnw.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Does garden variety 300 series behave well? (that's what I can get
> locally)
> Andy G
>
> Dave Smucker wrote:
>
>> Bruce, Not all aluminum will "crumble" in other words go "hot short"
>> it is very dependent on the alloy. The aerospace alloys 2XXX and 7XXX
>> do this big time but those alloys with lower alloy content do not --
>> 1100 -- which for all practical purposes is pure aluminum can be
>> forged or rolled right up to the melting point. I say this having
>> watched millions and millions of pounds of aluminum being hot rolled.
>> I have even seen 5182 hot rolled in the reversing mill and go liquid
>> at or near the center line from the energy added in rolling and still
>> make it off the end of the hot line without failure. Other alloys can
>> break up in the hot reversing mill if they get too hot. 5182 for the
>> record is the stuff in the top of a aluminum can. 3004 is the alloy
>> in the body.
>>
>> I recommend 3003 for our kind of forging. Other alloys will work
>> too. The pine stick temperature test works well.
>>
>> Dave Smucker
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 15:08:29 -0700
> From: Gladish Family <gladish at cnw.com>
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] forging aluminum
> To: Sponsored by ABANA <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> Message-ID: <42A0D4DD.9040602 at cnw.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Does garden variety 300 series behave well? (that's what I can get
> locally)
> Andy G
>
> Dave Smucker wrote:
>
>> Bruce, Not all aluminum will "crumble" in other words go "hot short"
>> it is very dependent on the alloy. The aerospace alloys 2XXX and 7XXX
>> do this big time but those alloys with lower alloy content do not --
>> 1100 -- which for all practical purposes is pure aluminum can be
>> forged or rolled right up to the melting point. I say this having
>> watched millions and millions of pounds of aluminum being hot rolled.
>> I have even seen 5182 hot rolled in the reversing mill and go liquid
>> at or near the center line from the energy added in rolling and still
>> make it off the end of the hot line without failure. Other alloys can
>> break up in the hot reversing mill if they get too hot. 5182 for the
>> record is the stuff in the top of a aluminum can. 3004 is the alloy
>> in the body.
>>
>> I recommend 3003 for our kind of forging. Other alloys will work
>> too. The pine stick temperature test works well.
>>
>> Dave Smucker
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 15:58:11 -0700
> From: "gblacksmith" <gblacksmith at alamedanet.net>
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Suggestions needed- OT
> To: "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> Message-ID: <000c01c5688f$b78ed390$6c8e8f18 at S0025804374>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> Philip: How about "Billiken" A Billiken is a little Alaskan
> leprechaun-like figure that represents "things as they should be,"
> according
> to legend. You could shorten it to Billie.
>
> or: Williwaw....the fierce Alaskan wind
>
> or: Cheechako.....New-comer to Alaska.
>
> Grant
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Phlip" <phlip at 99main.com>
> To: "SCA-Cooks" <sca-cooks at ansteorra.org>; "ArtMetal Sandbox"
> <sandbox at artmetal.com>; <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 12:03 PM
> Subject: [TheForge] Suggestions needed- OT
>
>
>>
>> Finally, after a great deal of discussion, my roommates have allowed me
>> to
>> get another dog. She's a 3 year old purebred Husky with blue eyes, no
>> training (yet) but a very nice temperment. I'm very happy with everything
>> about my acquisition, except for one thing- her name, Precious. That
>> being
>> the case, I intend to change it, since I can't abide having a dog whose
>> name
>> makes me want to upchuck every time I use it. My roommates agree ;-)
>>
>> Her previous name was Chinook, but I don't want something quite as
>> common.
>>
>> So, I'm posting y'all, and asking your help. What shall I name my new
>> dog?
>> Please, if you suggest a long name, make sure it can be shortened to a
>> one
>> syllable use name.
>>
>> Saint Phlip,
>> CoD
>>
>> "When in doubt, heat it up and hit it with a hammer."
>> Blacksmith's credo.
>>
>> If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it is probably not a
>> cat.
>>
>> Never a horse that cain't be rode,
>> And never a rider who cain't be throwed....
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Manage membership or unsubscribe at:
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>> Login: blacksmithblacksmith at hotmail.com
>> password: anvil
>> ___________
>>
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 16:48:28 -0700
> From: "The Wilson's" <kc7pme at tscnet.com>
> Subject: RE: [TheForge] Suggestions needed- OT
> To: "'Sponsored by ABANA'" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> Message-ID: <003601c56896$becdab20$180d7140 at 9535DEE118EC44B>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> DOG Pronounced DeeOhGee
> The Wilsons, on the wet side of Puget's Sound.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Rowland Smuck
> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 2:17 PM
> To: Sponsored by ABANA; SCA-Cooks; ArtMetal Sandbox
> Subject: Re: [TheForge] Suggestions needed- OT
>
>
> Aleutia!!!
> Rowland of Roseburg, OR 97470
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Phlip" <phlip at 99main.com>
> To: "SCA-Cooks" <sca-cooks at ansteorra.org>; "ArtMetal Sandbox"
> <sandbox at artmetal.com>; <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 12:03 PM
> Subject: [TheForge] Suggestions needed- OT
>
>
>>
>> Finally, after a great deal of discussion, my roommates have allowed
>> me to get another dog. She's a 3 year old purebred Husky with blue
>> eyes, no training (yet) but a very nice temperment. I'm very happy
>> with everything about my acquisition, except for one thing- her name,
>> Precious. That being the case, I intend to change it, since I can't
>> abide having a dog whose name makes me want to upchuck every time I
>> use it. My roommates agree ;-)
>>
>> Her previous name was Chinook, but I don't want something quite as
>> common.
>>
>> So, I'm posting y'all, and asking your help. What shall I name my new
>> dog? Please, if you suggest a long name, make sure it can be shortened
>> to a one syllable use name.
>>
>> Saint Phlip,
>> CoD
>>
>> "When in doubt, heat it up and hit it with a hammer." Blacksmith's
>> credo.
>>
>> If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it is probably not a
>> cat.
>>
>> Never a horse that cain't be rode,
>> And never a rider who cain't be throwed....
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Manage membership or unsubscribe at:
>> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/theforge
>> theforge mail list group photo site is http://www.photoaccess.com
>> Login: blacksmithblacksmith at hotmail.com
>> password: anvil
>> ___________
>>
>>
>>
>
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