[TheForge] Ceramic Chip Forge Workshop?

[Peter Fels And Phoebe Palmer]

John Fick's forge used 3/4" balls he made by hand of a high alumina 
refractory. He said that they broke down with use.
There was a problem with easily inserting smaller stock into the chip 
pile..the round balls helped...
You can tell old Ogden wasn't intimate with many cows........PF

Jeffrey Polaski wrote:
> Just a thought, but could you use broken ceramic plates for the chips?
> Maybe an broken toilet? I was thinking of seeing if I could find some
> broken kiln shelving at a local Junior College or something...
> 
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> Mike,
> That sounds like an interesting idea.  I like working with coal except
> for the mess and the smoke, and a ceramic chip forge sounds good.  If a
> castable refractory could be used for the "chips", then it might be
> feasible.  (I don't know where we'd come up with ceramic chips,
> otherwise.)
> 
> As to the workshops we've held in the past:  We used a simple
> cylindrical design, 12" dia x 12" long, with ceramic wool insulation
> (8#/cu.ft.), 2" thick.  On the bottom we used castable refractory to
> make a "table" to suport the work.  There was about 1" of ceramic wool
> beneath this.  A ~1" ID tube welded to the side of the forge, and
> equipped with a thumbscrew, holds the burner in place.  The burner is
> the Beinstock Burner, designed by Marshall Bienstock as an improvement
> to the "Aussie Burner".  http://www.frontiernet.net/~gnreil/close.jpg  
> 
> Marshall built jigs for the manufacture of the burner.  For both
> workshops he and others have prepared ahead by doing much of the cutting
> work before the day of the workshop.  The greatest delay in the workshop
> is letting castable refractory set up.  Participants have to be given
> instructions on how to use the forge and how to condition the refractory
> by slow heating on the first use.
> 
> Bruce
> NJ
> 
> 
>>>>Keporter at aol.com 7/12/2005 2:57:48 PM >>>
> 
>  
> In a message dated 7/12/2005 11:43:43 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
> FREEMAB at pt.fdah.com writes:
> 
> Mike,
> The first event was a number of years ago.  
> I'm not  sure what you would want described - the forge or the
> workshop? Bruce
> 
> 
> The workshop of course, you're going to build my forge, right? :-)
> Actually, I think your next building party should do something new--a  
> ceramic chip forge perhaps (if you can get people to agree on a size, I
> would be  
> willing to throw in a little help. The east coast isn't all that far
> away--by 
> mail. We could work up a prototype, and then you could have a
> build-fest for 
> anyone who wants to copy it. Probably, the forge should be fairly
> small, as I 
> think it best suited for billet work and brazing. I'm  trying to design
> one 
> that can be spun like a turn table for brazing work (tool  greed is such
> a 
> complicated thing :)
> Mike P.
>  
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