It didn't matter, He couldn't have gotten them on the bus:~) dan tull georgia abba, afc, S.C. psba, obg,sofa >> On a sad note, I could have had a 1000 ton press for $1000 a few >> years >> back. It was a four-poster. Beautiful... <sigh>. Coulda had the >> 250 >> ton for $300, but someone beat me to it. Another day perhaps...