[TheForge]Bluing, was gun metal care question

[Darrell]

"Rust Bluing" try Birchwood Casey Plum Brown. It is what we use on muzzle
loaders.
Darrell

http://www.machinemaster.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pettengill, Nate" <nate.pettengill at lmco.com>
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Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 9:00 AM
Subject: [TheForge]Bluing, was gun metal care question


> Yes, Winchester but not Model 1902, it says Model 90, it's a slide
> action, not single. The guy I bought it from thought to was made in the
> late 20s or 30s but they made lots of them so it was $100 or so in 1985.
> Not a collectors item but I'd prefer not to screw it up. After I get
> done with the steel wool and oil this weekend, I was thinking I might
> touch it up. Maybe a bad idea?
>
> So, now I've got to ask; what kind of steel went into these things and
> what is rust bluing? The finish has always been pretty good, never any
> pitting or rust but it is dark brown, I thought it was just age. I'm
> familiar with the cold bluing mixtures, I thought they were mostly acid
> which creates an tough oxide and then is neutralized.  I know there's
> hot bluing out there, which I assume is about the same chemical process,
> but probably different oxidant, something left to the gunsmiths along
> with plating and more fancy stuff.
>
> Nate
>
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> [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of gblacksmith
> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 10:37 AM
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> Subject: Re: [TheForge]Gun metal care question
>
> Nate:  An old octagon .22 short pump?  Is it a model 1902 Winchester?
> These
> guns were typically rust-blued and have tenacious finishes on them.  I
> have
> gotten good results with 0000 steel wool and oil.  Even 3-in -1 will
> work.
> Put a good film of oil on weapon, allow to stand for a day, then gently
> buff
> off surface rust.  This treatment will not remove pitting  of any depth,
>
> however.  The best way to arrest the rusting is to detail strip the
> weapon
> and inspect/clean all components.  A good storage method is the rifle
> length
> "Bianchi Blue Bags" made specifically for this.  Absent this, I use
> marine
> grease rubbed on well for long-term storage.  You can also use
> "Kleenbore
> Rust Guardit" which is easier to apply.  For ready storage, I use
> Ballistol,
> Boeshield T9 or Shooter's Choice Rust prevent.  Grant
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Pettengill, Nate" <nate.pettengill at lmco.com>
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> Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 10:41 AM
> Subject: [TheForge]Gun metal care question
>
>
> > Speaking of AZ, guns and all, here's a actual metal question. I had
> some
> > really nasty squirrels chew their way into the barn over the fall and
> > winter other day and make an incredible mess. I dragged out the old
> > octagon .22 short pump that I picked up when I was living in Arizona
> > (accurate as hell and quiet) and popped them. But I noticed that there
> > was a pretty good dusting of rust on the barrel. I checked my other
> guns
> > and they are all a bit rusty. Must be the damp climate here Back East,
> > that never happened in AZ. I had cleaned and oiled them up then stored
> > them in foam-lined cases when I moved but never checked them for a
> year
> > or so. No place to hunt around here anyway. What to do to refinish
> them?
> > Fine emery cloth? Then gun blue and Navy grease? Any better ideas?
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Nate
> >
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