[TheForge] on death and dying.OT

[Grover Richardson]

If it was easy, or cheap, someone would already have on one the market<G>.
Anything ADA related is hideously expensive.  The govt funds bunches of it,
there are the liability aspects, and of course, each and every unit must be
tailored to the specific specifications of the individual, so each one is a
custom fit.

In order for it to be unconditionally stable, it should have either a large
footprint, or 3 legs<G>.  Look at the walking robots they have today.  

As far as standing in a rig without leg support, have you ever hung in a
parachute??  If you have no muscular support, this is similar to hanging in
a parachute, very constrictive to blood flow I would suspect (Hey jarheads
out there, am I wrong???, tar heel here<G>).  And seriously
uncomfortable<G>.

Still, brainstorming is good.  It's much simpler to figure out how things
will go wrong, than to try them and have to cut them up into scrap<G>.

Woof

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[mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Freeman
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Ah ah!  Never nay-say while I'm brainstorming.  It's against the rules.

If you sat down all your life, you'd feel awkward and unbalanced standing
up.  I've had knee problems and know whereof I speak.

The key here it to come up with a walking apparatus than makes a person feel
stable.  I do not believe this would cost a fortune.  Maybe about as much as
a powered wheelchair for a paraplegic.

Bruce
NJ

>>> grover.richardson at gtri.gatech.edu 1/11/2005 3:55:37 PM >>>
Balancing is a delicate thing.  You can be top heavy. And things like that
are extremely expensive.

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[mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Freeman
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I think it would be damned dangerous, especially for paraplegics with little
feeling below the waste.  "Where'd that cut-off go?  Hmmm, I think I smell
meat cooking..."

What I don't comprehend is why "the handicapped" have to be kept in a seated
position.  Why not a stand-up ambulatory apparatus?  I'm thinking of those
little walking toys that lean back and forth while they move the legs
forward, alternately.  Adapt that to human-size.  "Seat" the patient in a
breeches-bouy-like contrivance.

Bruce
NJ

>>> osan at netlabs.net 1/11/2005 9:40:56 AM >>>
I have no expeorience with this, but thinking on it, on ething that 
seems to stand out immediately would the advantage of having an anvil 
that would sit near or even over the lap.\. or in some orientation that

would not force the chairbound smith to have to bend forward or to the

side in any excessive fashion in order to hammer.  What do you all think 
of this?

Jim Pigott wrote:
> The Mississippi Forge Council has a new member, wheel chair
confined,
that got
> into the fire for the first time this past weekend. The way he kept
looking at
> his new fire poker made the effort to make this happen totally worth
it. Our
> group is designing a forge, anvil and vise combination for him. Does
anyone
> have any experience with this type of situation? Care to share
suggestions,
> ideas.
> Thanks, when I learn how to post a picture of him, his smile and
poker I will.
> 
> Jim Pigott
> 
> 
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> [mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of magichammer
> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 2:26 PM
> To: terry l. ridder; Sponsored by ABANA
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> 
> I suggest that you set it up with your local blacksmiths group /
abana
> chapter.
> dave m
> 
> terry l. ridder wrote:
> 
> 
>>hello;
>>
>>this is related to blacksmithing in that i am attempting to draw up
a
>>specific clause for a codicil. i want to make it clear that any and
all
>>of my blacksmithing tools, the miller 185 mig welder, the
oxy-acetylene
>>torch and tanks, the propane tanks, and the propane forge. be given
to a
>>person with one or more physical challenges and is just starting out
in
>>blacksmithing.
>>
>>my question is how do i specify the following:
>>
>>0) the person or persons who make the decision as to who should
receive
>>   the above items?
>>
>>1) provide for an announcement that persons who meet the my criteria
>>   should make the appropriate application to the person/persons
>>determined
>>   in item 0 above?
>>
>>it is obvious that neither the lawyers  or the family have the
knowledge
>>or the ability to determine who would benefit the most from
receiving
>>the above mentioned tools.
>>
>>suggestions and comments welcomed.
>>
> 
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