[TheForge] Have you run your Nazel/Chevette lately?

[Ralph Sproul]

...... ?,   So, do you need an 80 amp breaker to feed the initial 5hp motor
to develop enough power in this chain gang converter to handle the start up
current on the 15Hp motor on the hammer?

    I don't see how running a 30 amp service into a converter and then on to
another idler, and then on to another idler is going to amplify current.

    ...........if so, I shouldn't be going to pick up this 20 Hp converter
that takes an 80 amp breaker this weekend to power my Nazel motor.

    At this point, I'm going to opt for the single converter unit as my
walls don't have enough room for three motors, and motor starters as I was
hoping for some shelving to put dies and fixtures.......... and there is no
room on the floor either.
    I can be talked out of anything, but how does this generate the
approximated 72 amps of power needed for start up ?

    Inquiring (no) minds want to know........    :-)

Ralph

----- Original Message -----
From: "Darrell" <darrell at machinemaster.com>
To: <mspencer at tallships.ca>; "Sponsored by ABANA" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 2:20 AM
Subject: Re: [TheForge] Have you run your Nazel/Chevette lately?


> Mike,
> 15 HP Phase conversion.
> Make a 5 HP Phase converter. Use that to start another 5 HP idler motor.
> With both running start a 10 HP idler. Now you can start your hammer with
> power to spare.
> Darrell
>
> http://www.machinemaster.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Spencer" <mspencer at tallships.ca>
> To: <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 6:00 PM
> Subject: [TheForge] Have you run your Nazel/Chevette lately?
>
>
> >
> > Okayyy.... Back On Topic, eh?
> >
> > > Have you run your Nazel/Chevette lately?
> >
> > Nitpick: That's "Alldays/Cavalier".
> >
> > No.  I *have* run it single-handed, i.e. without a 2nd guy to drive the
> > hammer, the Chevy or both.  I've hammered hot steel and hot wrought
> > iron with it.  I have proof of concept.  That is, I put it back
> > together right, there is reasonably good control, nothing goes
> > bash-bash that isn't supposed to.  (Something did, but I fixed it.) It
> > hits like a sonoffabitch.
> >
> > But it takes a half an hour or so to start: install battery, check
> > fuel for water, re-attach some cables and switches, lube external
> > throttle, check the tires & oil, remove squirrel nests from engine
> > compartment etc.
> >
> > And when it's running, it's pretty scary.  The car's going about 40
> > mph and straining hard.  What happens to that big irreplaceable hammer
> > gear if I blow out a tire from chafing?  Especially if the tether
> > tears free?  What happens, for that matter, to tender little me?  I
> > can't concentrate on the iron and think about that stuff at the same
> > time.
> >
> > This spring, I'm going in pursuit of either (a) an old tractor with
> > sufficient HP and a good PTO or (b) an industrial engine with a
> > governor.  (3PH is out of the question and 15HP is getting pretty
> > heavy duty -- not to mention heavy $$ -- for a converter or a straight
> > single phase motor, even on a 200A entry.)
> >
> > A last resort will be that I retire my '81 4x4 pickup.  Remove the
> > rear drive shaft and replace it so that it becomes a PTO.  Then I can
> > move the truck around with the front wheels in 4WD, then put it into
> > 2WD and only the rear shaft goes, to drive the hammer.  I have the
> > drive-gear & shaft from the original 15HP electric motor.
> >
> > With the power plant not trying to take off at 40mph, some pillow
> > block bearings and other parts from the Farmer's Co-op together with a
> > little welding should give me a much safer rig.
> >
> > Be nice to find a mechanical tach with the right RPM range so I
> > could rev it up to just the right speed instead of guessing.
> >
> > - Mike
> >
> > --
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> > mspencer at tallships.ca                                     /( )\
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