[TheForge] Seasoning tasting spoons: EXPERIMENT
kevin donahoe
flyinpig at go-concepts.com
Thu Aug 18 09:49:17 EDT 2005
Walter,
I'll own up to that one, I jumped the gun at the prospect of a plastic coat
applied to warm metal, seemed kind of an integral coating. Also sounded
better for ironwork than eating utensils... yech! give me olive oil on my
spatula any day.
Kevin D
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Gee ... there I go again assuming "weather testing" meant outdoors ...
stupid me :-)
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[mailto:theforge-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Freeman
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The vinegar was a suggestion for KITCHEN use testing. Not outdoors use
testing. Note that this thread dealt with seasoning tasting spoons.
>>> wmullett at bright.net 8/16/2005 5:57:26 PM >>>
I believe the problem outdoors will be breakdown from UV so the vinegar
experiment would be moot.
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I've tried applying it, but I haven't tried weather testing.
Polyethylene goes onto "warm" steel very nicely. I have a reference that
suggests that the melting point of polyethylene ranges from ~90C to ~140C
(~200F to ~280F), so the steel can be heated in a 250F to 300F kitchen oven
and the polyethylene applied and allowed to melt onto and into the
crevasses
of the steel.
I can attest that the result is very nice on black iron, but i haven't
experimented with polished steel. I expect that some degree of skill would
be needed.
Here's a link to recycling symbols:
http://americanplasticscouncil.org/s_apc/sec.asp?TRACKID=&CID=313&DID=931
It looks to me like HDPE (milk jugs, Symbol "2") would be a good choice.
LDPE ("4") and PP ("5") would also be worth considering.
As a precaution, it might be worth using ONLY food-grade containers for
coating kitchen items. The reason is that plastics often have additives,
and we might not want these on our kitchenware.
If anyone wants to try accelerated weathering tests, I'd suggest immersion
in warm salted vinegar overnight or longer. If that doesn't rust it, then
it's probably not going to rust during kitchen use.
Bruce
NJ
>>> flyinpig at go-concepts.com 8/16/2005 8:32:48 AM >>>
Bruce,
As a blacksmith, have you tried it? Do you know what number (inside the
recycle triangle) polyethelene would be on the container?
Sounds like another experiment? who wants to grate up a 5 gal bucket, or
two, one white, one black and set the stuff outside for a year ;)? I
suppose there's a chipper/shredder out there that would eat strips of the
stuff, and put out some chips that could be suspended in, whatever
solution?
to distribute it evenly on the warm iron with a brush.
Just rambling...Kevin D
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Purely paraffinic (saturated) mineral oil won't "dry" (i.e.,
polymerize). Unsaturated "mineral" oils should dry, but I don't
know a convenient source of these, other than chemical catalogs.
There IS a work-around, though. Polyethylene is essentially "polymerized
mineral oil". It can be melted onto a hot surface.
Works pretty well, and looks nice. I don't know why blacksmiths
don't use
this more often. It could be the answer to all those questions of
protecting steel outdoors.
Bruce
>>> lance at bentoaks.org 8/15/2005 11:12:14 PM >>> try mineral oil, clean
and doesn,t turn or get sticky
Lance
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