[TheForge] Seasoning tasting spoons: EXPERIMENT

Mon Aug 15 23:08:14 EDT 2005

Bruce,   your are right.  The color is from the oil and is not a tempering 
color.  I performed the experiment as described below and the piece with 
CRISCO turned the same deep yellow/gold and the piece without did not hardly 
change color. Maybe a shade darker.  This was at 375 by the stove's 
thermometer for 1 hour.  I think I will try some more experiments.  I want 
to see what happens to the bare steel at 400 degrees.  also, I want to see 
if there is any color difference between CRISCO vs. Polyunsaturated oil.

For this experiment, I used the CRISCO, because that is what I originally 
used and I did not want to introduce too many variables.

regards,
D-ski

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bruce Freeman" <FREEMAB at pt.fdah.com>
To: <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 8:08 AM
Subject: Re: [TheForge] Seasoning tasting spoons

Actually, that's the reason I suspected it was NOT the temper color.  Might 
be interesting to put a couple pieces of bright steel in your oven, one 
oiled, the other not, and compare the colors that develop.

Bruce

>>> dski1045 at qis.net 7/29/2005 2:52:29 PM >>>
Bruce,

The reason I believe it to be  a tempering color, is that in the bowls of
the spoons where the melted Crisco collected, the bronze color did not form.
Which is why I said that I would do one cycle with out oil/Crisco to get an
even color all over.   I have practice pieces left.  I will put one in the
oven at 375 and see if I get the same coloring as I got when trying to
season the tableware.

I used Crisco, because that is what I have used for cast iron cook ware.
Next time I will try the  oil as you suggest.

Regards,
D-ski
Westminster, MD

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bruce Freeman" <FREEMAB at pt.fdah.com>
To: <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 11:13 AM
Subject: Re: [TheForge] Seasoning tasting spoons

Are you sure that was a tempering color?  Granted, that's about the right
color for the temperature (considering the inaccuracy of oven controls).
However, I expect you were seeing the color due to the oil.

BTW.  Crisco is not the best choice for this.  Polyunsaturated vegetable oil
is better.

Bruce
NJ

>>> dski1045 at qis.net 7/29/2005 9:48:55 AM >>>
Phlip,

I recently made some table ware for use at Ren-faire events.  I seasoned
them  in the oven at 375 with Crisco (like I do cast iron frypans etc).  I
found that I should have done one cycle without the Crisco in order to first
get an even color over the entire utensil.  At 375 (according to oven
setting), the utensils picked up a very nice gold/bronze tempering color.
But where the Crisco puddled, such as in the bowls of the spoons, or
wherever a part of the utensil rested on the cookie tray, the color did not
take.

Also, next time, I will season with spoons facing down for the first cycle
using the Crisco.  I did a total of 3 cycles with Crisco.

Since you may have more experience from a cooks perspective:  how low a
temperature can one use for seasoning cookware?  I have seen temperatures in
the 350 to 425 referenced.  My customer was pleased with the bronze color,
but I am wondering if I would get effective  seasoning of the utensil at a
low enough temperature so as not to get a temper color on the steel, i.e.
keep the bright steel color.

D-ski
Westminster, MD

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Phlip" <phlip at 99main.com>
To: <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 8:15 AM
Subject: [TheForge] Pineapple twist

>
> Can someone run over the instructions for the Pineapple Twist for me? I
have
> a project that it would be very appropriate for (actually a couple) and
I'd
> like to get it right ;-)
>
> As the project is making a couple of steel tasting spoons for a couple of
> friends, would I be OK seasoning the spoons as I normally would a cast
oron
> frying pan, or a steel wok? Or is there another finish that you guys would
> suggest?
>
> Saint Phlip,
> CoD
>
> "When in doubt, heat it up and hit it with a hammer."
>  Blacksmith's credo.
>
>  If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it is probably not a
> cat.
>
> Never a horse that cain't be rode,
> And never a rider who cain't be throwed....
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