[TheForge] Dont put your tongue on a frozen anvil

Chris Kilpatrick crimsonkil at lycos.com
Wed Sep 29 13:45:01 EDT 2004


Remember that we are talking about stress over time at colder temps.  the nature of steel is that it work hardens due to repeated stress, then stress risers or fractures appear microscopically, then failure happens rather swiftly.  Once the steel has absorbed all the stres it can take, it is brittle.  Now, if we start by putting the steel in a more brittle state, even if it is only slightly more brittle (which is not the case) we shorten the time needed to produce stress fractures.  Failure is a function of amount of stress and how many times the steel has been stressed.

-Chris K.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Grover Richardson" <grover.richardson at gtri.gatech.edu>
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 12:31:51 -0400
To: "'Sponsored by ABANA'" <theforge at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: RE: [TheForge] Dont put your tongue on a frozen anvil

> I understand the concept.  But I wonder if an anvil a mere 80 degrees cooler
> will break?  I'm not a metalurgist (though I suspect there are those lurking
> here that are<G>.  But if an additional 80 degrees will cause it to break, I
> wonder if it was correctly constructed originally????  We tend to use
> freezing as a step function in the world, and for us it is.  But to metal,
> it appears to only be just another degree colder<G>.
> 
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> Subject: Re: [TheForge] FW: [The_Anvil] Dont put your tongue on a frozen
> anvil
> 
> 
> I had always heard the issue was potential damage to the anvil, not just 
> losing heat in the work.   I tend to preheat my anvil even though it 
> doesn't get that cold in Texas.  Easy enough to do. 
> 
> Charles
> 
> Grover Richardson wrote:
> 
> >So, a cold anvil is only .04494382 colder than the warm anvil.  That is 
> >about 4.5%.  Measurable, but not metal threatning<G>.  Yes, it will 
> >have a (possibly noticeable) effect.
> >
> >  
> >
> 
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