[TheForge] Normal People... (YAK)

[Peter Fels And Phoebe Palmer]

I figure the order is
Quench tank no hesitation or time to consider severity...from there I 
plan  what is the quickest way to
 Ice....and if it is called for ( assessment). If it's a good burn then
Ice till you need sleep.
At this point i used  to go for a fist full of asprin....then The 
Brazeal Bros came to visit and introduced me to pine tar which i  doubted.
No longer...I'm a convert. Pine tar is the stuff.
Last really good self-barbeque i used ice till late at night. Everytime 
i removed the ice the burn lit back up.
So heeding Brian Brazeal, i smeared on pine tar ( ugly looking stuff) 
and in about 20 min the pain went away and stayed away. It healed much 
faster than I'd expected.
The whole thing smacks of astrological medicine way too much for 
me...but it worked....Pete F


Walter L. Mullett wrote:

>I learned years ago how well ice works for burns.   My wife was boiling
>water which she attempted to pour into a glass jar.  Of course it burst and
>the boiling water flew onto her jean pants leg.  I immediately stripped off
>her pants and used ice cubes on the burned area.  The first couple melted in
>seconds.  She was screaming at me but later at the emergency room, she
>thanked me.  The doctors said I saved her a lot of pain and some possible
>scaring.
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>I think the reason ice works is that there is residual heat in a burn that
>continues to do damage and you need to get all of that out.  I even use it
>on sun burns.  Hard to stand but if you can get it on as soon as you see a
>problem, you'll stop the damage from going deeper and most of the times, you
>won't even be sore.
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>From: Andy Vida <osan at netlabs.net>
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>Date: Saturday, September 18, 2004 2:03 PM
>Subject: Re: [TheForge] Normal People... (YAK)
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>>Mike Linn wrote:
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>>>"No one gets burned by a piece of red hot metal"  its the piece of steel
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>>>a 800 deg black heat that gets you...
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>>This has been a particular problem for me.  I have some sort
>>of serious mental block about black heat.  If it isn't glowing
>>it isn't hot.  A few years ago I was in the shop hammering
>>away, set the red work on the forge, went to get a drink or
>>something, returned and grabbed the piece HARD at a good 800
>>degrees.  Marshall got the show for that month as I danced
>>around the anvil swearing with such vulgar eloquence as to
>>blush any sailor you care to name.
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>>The burns were just this side of third degree, which made
>>them the worst in terms of pain.  What I discovered that
>>day was that 8 hours of ice will work a minor miracle in
>>terms of pain and healing.  Went home, packed hand in ice,
>>hit the couch, nodded out for 8 hours with a couple of
>>trips for more ice, and when I was back in the world, my
>>hand had NO pain.  Ugly as hell, but painless.  It also
>>healed a lot more quickly, or so it seemed to me at the
>>time.
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>>Keep ice on hand.  Slack tub first, then ice for at least
>>8 hours.  You won't be sorry.
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>>-Andy
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