[TheForge] Re: guardrails and handrails

[Charle B Vincent]

Hate to bust your bubble here Andy, but blacksmithing and software are 
still more art than not, so they are never done.  In both, it seems your 
perceptions of the task at hand change in the doing of it and your best 
ideas happen three quarters of the way through the job.     They both 
will expand to fill the available time.   The real skill is in the 
knowing when to say no more and the having the discipline to act on it.

Charles

Andy Vida wrote:

>Bob Ehrenberger wrote:
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>>I know I don't have the reputation or abilitys of Francis, but I've under
>>bid enough times to realise new things always take longer than expected.
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>	Now this is one place where for some odd reason I appear to have
>	some seriously "on" talent.  I don't know why, but my estimating
>	eye for smithing and software projects seems to be very good.
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>	One thing I refuse to do is underbid.  Of course, that doesn't
>	help much when you are partnered up with a bozo who takes your
>	estimates and cuts them in half for the customer to make just
>	enough to pay the shop expenses but not enough to pay YOU for
>	the work.  Oh... let me not get started.
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